User talk:EGGS/Archive 5

Francis Drake
Cna you unlock that page for a few minutes so I can add some stuff in the Nihongo templates? In fact, I think blocking users would be better than locking the article. 20:03, October 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's semi-protected, so anyone autoconfirmed should be able to edit it. EGGS (talk) 21:36, October 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, I didn't notice that. 22:25, October 28, 2015 (UTC)

Excalibur
It is not impossible, as Archer said in UBW episode 18. You are edit warring, use the talk page.   I  S T  O  L  E   T H  E   P I  E  S  π  14:09, November 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * The Q&amp;A trumps what everything else in the story as already explained. Do not change it again. EGGS (talk) 14:15, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Affiliation
Hi, I was wondering if you would like to affiliate this wiki with http://type-moon-fanon.wikia.com/wiki/Type_Moon_Fanon_Wikia ? It's still extremely new though. This wiki can be the mother site for my wiki. Ikido (talk) 21:15, November 25, 2015 (UTC)Ikido

Kotomine
I saw that you deleted my changes to the Kotomine Kirei page. In order to preempt an edit war, I was wondering if you could tell me your reasons for doing so. Thank you. 104.10.194.164 19:14, December 12, 2015 (UTC)174.46.106.186
 * I wouldn't argue that the content could use a rewrite, but the edits completely change the context in some areas. EGGS (talk) 19:18, December 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Based on your reply, I assume that that my edits were deleted due to procedural considerations as opposed to the substance of what I contributed. Assuming I'm correct, what process must I go through to have them included or at least considered for inclusion? However, if you disagree with the substance of my statements, would you mind telling me why?  Thanks once again for your consideration regarding this matter.  104.10.194.164 19:24, December 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * The edits included speculative details here and there, removed a few important statements, and lost some organization. It doesn't have to be worded in the same way, but most details should come directly from the source work. EGGS (talk) 00:22, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Just for the purpose of clarification, what is your source for Tokiomi classifying Kirei as a beginner at best? I don't recall hearing that in Fate/Zero.Stfan1987 (talk) 01:39, December 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * 4th volume, when Kerry is assessing Kotomine's battle prowess. EGGS (talk) 19:58, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Daily message in Xmas day
It will be Arcueid's birthday soon. Could you change the daily message on the homepage into this (http://i.imgur.com/I0gL8LE.png) when that day comes? Thank you.

Edit tools
Can you take a look at this please? 14:43, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

Saber's Physical Strength
Where in the UBW VN does it say that Saber is physically weaker than Shirou and Rin without mana (Day; Section; etc)?
 * The baseball date scene. EGGS (talk) 02:27, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism page
Shinji Matou (Fate/Kaleid) was made with 1 line of content stating his sexual preferences and was then blanked by someone else.

Please delete it. (talk) 19:50, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

Akiha test play ending
Do you know what this is referring to? It says it explains why Shiki is *** and I don't even know what it's referring to. Sandubadear (talk) 20:59, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Not a clue. EGGS (talk) 22:05, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Background
hi i am a guest of this site and i admit i am not familiar with typemoon

if u can tell me who is the 2nd character from the right it would be much appriciated?

07:09, February 29, 2016 (UTC)76.65.160.166


 * From left to right, Caren Hortensia, Sakura Matou, Rin Tohsaka, Saber (Fate/stay night), Bazett Fraga McRemitz, and Avenger (Fate/hollow ataraxia). EGGS (talk) 18:31, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Gaming footer
Hi, EGGS!

A user recently nominated TYPE-MOON for inclusion in our gaming footers. Would you be interested?

Best regards,

Raylan13 ( talk ) 18:40, March 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Added! And now the footer has been created :) Raylan13 ( talk ) 20:10, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

Naegling
Was Beowulf's sword confirmed not to be Naegling? Or are we just removing it because it's unconfirmed? Zahadrin (talk) 19:32, March 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's not actually named as far as I know. Technically, neither is Hrunting, but that's a given. I'm pretty sure he has three or four swords in legend, so it could be any of them. EGGS (talk) 20:24, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

Throne?
How about a single page for Throne? As far as I know, there are four types of Thrones where only one is referred to in this wiki:

Throne of Heroes (F/SN, etc.): Holds Heroic Spirits

Throne of Divine Spirits (F/SF, referred to by the Wolf's original master; idk how Beast's Lair translated itthough): Holds gods

Throne of Guardians, also called something like the Ring of the Counter Force (F/Extra, Fujimura says Archer is summoned not from the Throne of Heroes, but from the Ring): Holds Counter Guardians

Throne of Souls (Fate/Complete Material 3, Kagetsu Tohya): Holds human souls after death. After death, a human soul can either become a ghost, become stored in the Throne of Souls, or reincarnate.

Zodiac21 (talk) 08:44, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * I know there are references to a 'seat of gods', like mentioning that Heracles ascended there in one of his profiles (CM3?) and saying that only those who have fallen from the seat of gods can be summoned as Servants normally in GO. I don't know if that has been clarified to be the god-storage equivalent though, or just a way of saying "they entered/left the realm of the gods." CGs are definitely on the ToHs. Archer and Rin both give exposition in UBW before the Shirou vs Archer fight. That Drama CD quote is one of many random tidbits we have yet to make full sense of in relation to everything else. Never heard of the last one. Sure you're not mistaken? EGGS (talk) 11:08, March 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * About gods, 座 seems to be used in the same context as when talking about the Throne of Heroes so idk.
 * Out of a lack of resources and personal laziness...here's a wiki page for the quote where the Ring of the Counter Force (Wheel of Deterrence?) is talked about by Emiya in Extra: http://typemoon.wiki.cre.jp/wiki/%E7%84%A1%E9%8A%98. The term itself should exist or Emiya wouldn't talk about it. I'll skip the Fujimura quote from Blossom sensei since you already seem to have heard about it.
 * About the Throne of Souls, it says that the Baptism Rite of the Church returns ghosts back to their Throne forcefully in F/CM3. Supposedly, this is where you take the human souls for use in making familiars like talked about in Kagetsu Tohya. Zodiac21 (talk) 20:07, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * There's seemingly some place for gods given that even dead goddesses like Stheno and Euryale are being summoned, but it doesn't seem like it's been clarified yet. For CGs, it seems like something that will probably get a proper explanation somewhere. It definitely should be mentioned in an article as a thing that exists, but I don't think we can draw any specific conclusion on its relation to the throne and how that all works as of yet. As far as church spells go, it sounds like that might be another way of saying it's "sending them back to heaven" symbolically. I'm not familiar with the KT reference off-hand. EGGS (talk) 22:06, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Scathach
Hello! A few hours ago wonder one thing about Scathach but I have not received a reply and wanted to know if you could help.

I've been reading some Korean and Chinese pages that talk about it and say they also taught their students sexually and had a daughter, is that true?

Thanks and sorry my bad English !!

Boentessi (talk) 17:48, March 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * In Irish mythology, yes. In the world of Fate, probably, but we don't know. EGGS (talk) 17:52, March 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your answer!


 * Boentessi (talk) 17:55, March 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry to bother you again but there are things I read I would like to confirm, is bisexual Gilgamesh?
 * Boentessi (talk) 18:51, March 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * We have no idea, but I would go with 90% likely in my opinion. EGGS (talk) 19:02, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

Avalon
Noticed there was some confusion about whether F/Z says Avalon supplies energy or not so I looked up the raw:

元来がセイバーの所有物である『全て遠き理想郷（アヴァロン）』は、サーヴァントからの魔力供給があって初めて効力を発揮する宝具である. この先、セイバーとともに前線に立つ望みのないアイリスフィールが装備していたところで戦略的な価値はない. = "Avalon, which was originally Saber's property, was a Noble Phantasm that would only show its effect once it had a supply of magical energy from the Servant. Since she had no hope of joining Saber on the front lines, there was no strategic merit to Irisviel being equipped with it any longer."

So yeah it doesn't supply magical energy, it gets supplied with it ("サーヴァントからの魔力供給" is pretty unambiguous) Wakame (talk) 22:48, March 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. EGGS (talk) 23:11, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

New Event Classes?
Hey, about those new classes, I know a bunch of them are marked (Fake), but Jekyll at least is marked (Real), so are they all fake servants, and Real/Fake have a different context here, or can we take some seriously, and not others, like that Saber Ko-Gil? Hawkeye2701 (talk) 23:10, April 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe the context of those titles is for the drop material rather than their status. Either way, going by plot is the best way to tell. Berserker Boudica and Berserker Liz were specifically like that in the plot, so there's no mistaking it for a gameplay thing. EGGS (talk) 23:44, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'll keep an eye out then and see what pops up in story, if any. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 23:55, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Gilgamesh as Caster
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Caster_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Gilgamesh)

copypasted from Gilgamesh talk page:

The article for Caster Gilgamesh is wrong. It says that the artwork was done by Ginka, who did Jason's artwork in Fate/Grand Order. There is no official artwork for Caster Gilgamesh, the unofficial images Caster Gilgamesh are actually Jason from Fate/Grand Order, before his identity was confirmed/translations were released. Gilgamesh DOES appear in F/GO as his regular self and as Child Gil, but only as an Archer class Servant.

Please help with removing the article, and removing pages that link to it, specifically the ones with sortable tables such as the Servant page and the Caster page. Don't have the technical knowledge and I'd rather not break the sortable lists/tables. Eaglezero55 (talk) 00:13, April 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Caster Gilgamesh is from the datamine of Grand Order. It was never thought to be Jason. The page was created earlier than necessary due to a misprint in the TMAGO volume, but it is correct. EGGS (talk) 00:17, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Emiya Assassin NP page have a mstace. it's a quote "Now either you arrive. Chronos Rose." The quote has no problems but the author of the quote listed as Caster while it directs to Assassin Emiya page. I could change it but I'm not 100% sure which instance is wrong and my knowledge of japanese leave a lot to be desiered.

Fan Fiction
http://videogames-fanon.wikia.com/wiki/Video_Games_Fanon_Wiki http://fanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fan_Fiction_Wiki http://fanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Convergence_Life_Body_Malius http://fanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Impregnable_Skirt

This is the "Fan Fiction". Nemesislivezx (talk) 14:47, May 9, 2016 (UTC)