Talk:Saber (Fate/stay night)

In the box, the values of the Endurance ability does not show up.

Realta Nua text
“[line6]” 必要のない息を呑む. 全容を俯瞰する. これが、セイバーの魔術回路. 線や回路でイメージされる俺たちとは根本から異なる、 人を凌駕する心臓部分. ……これは炉心だ. 魔術師の体が魔力を生み出す機械 とするなら、ここは魔力を生み出す工場と言っていい. "[line6]" I swallow my breath that I do not need. I stare at the full scenery. This is Saber's Magic Circuit. Her heart that exceeds humans and is fundamentally different from ours which is imagined from lines and circuits. This place is a core. If a magus's body is a machine which creates magical energy, this place is a factory which creates magical energy.
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しかし、その炉心は活動していない. 炉心を回転させる為の始まりの鍵. 一度目の回Tをさ せるだけの動力源が途絶えている. これだけの膨大な魔力、魔術炉心を持ちながら、炉心 を起動させるだけの魔力がない. But the core isn't active. The starting key to make the core turn- the source of energy to provide the first turn is not there. There is such a great amount of magical energy and an enormous magical core, but there isn't enough magical energy to activate the core.
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[line3]浮上する. 静止したガソリンの海. いかな膨大な魔力の原液だろうと、それだけでは意味 がない. 燃やすには火が必要だ. どんなに小さな火でも 構わない. 魔力を送る路さえ繋がれば、この炉心は活動 を再開する. [line3]その為に. 人智を超越したモノが目を覚ます. [line3]I rise to the surface. The stalled sea of gasoline. No matter how much undiluted magical energy there is, it's meaningless without a fire to burn it. It doesn't matter how small the fire is. This core will resume activity once the path to send magical energy is connected. [line3]For that... A thing transcending humans awakens.
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[line3]曰く. [ruby text=か]彼の王はブリテンを象徴する赤き竜. 人の身でありながら幻想の血を宿す、貴き星の落とし 子であると. [line3]It is... The king is a red dragon symbolizing Britain. The child of the sacred star, carrying phantasm blood in a human body.
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[ruby text=ドラゴン]竜. 数ある幻想種たちの象徴であり畏怖である君臨者. 時に魔となり時に神として現れる万獣の頂点. それがセイバーの無意識に在るもの. 最優のサーヴァントの名に相応しい、規格外の“正体” だった. Dragon. The symbol of numerous fantasy races, the king of fear. Evil at times and godlike at other times, the top of all beings. That is what is in Saber's unconsciousness. It is an absurd "true nature" that is appropriate for the best Servant.
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「[line6]、ああ」 なんて温かい. 炉心は低い響きを帯び、黄金に燃えあがる. 緻密な魔術回路は七色の輝きを帯び、循環を開始した. 炎は灯った. 未熟な魔術師でも、彼女の主として、きちんと役目を 果たせたのだ. "[line6]Oh." How warm. The core is burning golden with a low sound. The delicate Magic Circuit is glowing with all the colors of the rainbow, restarting the circulation. The fire has been lit. Even though I may be an amateur, I was able to fulfill my role as her Master.
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Personal Skills?
I know the status screens and what have you note all hr skills, but Fate/Zero makes mention that Arturia's ability to walk on water is the Blessing of the Lady of the Lake. So if only for the Kiritsugu section in the info box should it be added as a personal skill? Hawkeye2701 04:33, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Saber's role after her death
"Heroic Spirits are those who have been removed from the time axis and placed on the Throne of Heroes, while Saber can still be considered living. The hero known as King Arthur is not currently classified as a Heroic Spirit, so she cannot be called a complete Servant. She made a pact with the World as she was on the verge of death after the Battle of Camlann that will require her to become a Counter Guardian, a sub-category of a Heroic Spirit at the service of the World, after her death . These pacts are normally done by those requiring the power beyond ordinary humans to become heroes during their lifetimes, but her wish instead came at the time of her death because King Arthur didn't require support to become a hero."

No, that's wrong. A pact that Saber made will require her to become a regular Heroic Spirit, not a Counter Guardian.
 * The contract with the world always leads to becoming a Counter Guardian. That's how it gets its stock of them. I don't think it is ever directly referred as such only because the concept isn't fully explored until UBW. EGGS (talk) 11:34, July 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, becoming a Counter Guardian will follow only when the person wish to become a hero during his/her life. Saber needn't that, she already was a hero, her wish was totally different. I might be mistaken though... 95.52.9.144 18:02, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * That seems to be the most general wish people make to the world, but it is still the same pact. She mentions that she became a hero on her own, but so she fervently wished for the Holy Grail at the time that she reached out to the world. EGGS (talk) 18:19, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Newly added info
"Well-structured meals" and "Badly-structured meals" sound like overly-literal translations of what's supposed to mean "good meals" and "bad meals", don't you think? MarqFJA (talk) 13:41, November 5, 2012 (UTC)