Talk:Dead Apostle

Nobody can decide on how the Growth Process works here. This is problematic. What sources are people using? If we can get an idea where these variations are coming from, maybe we can solve it. My primary source is the Mirror Moon translation of Tsukihime, based of Arcueid and Ciel's explanations and Roa's memories. In those versions, The Dead are something created intentionally by the parent vampire, as are potential ghouls; the parent decides which to create when it injects blood into the victim. A new vampire has power that reflects it's original abilities as a human, plus a portion of the parent's strength (This is how Roa became so powerful, and why Satsuki becomes a Vampire). Narbareck states that it takes about a century for a ghoul to reach Dead Apostle level in Roa's memories. The progression rate seems to be a matter of survival rather than actual ability to develop into higher stages. Arcueid states that most Dead Apostles do not receive any special powers besides their limited immortality from becoming a vampire. Their physical capabilities are developed just like a normal person's, they have just had more time to do so. This means that normal vampires can be killed by mundane means, so long as one has a way of canceling their Curse of Restoration. In the Tsukihime 2 prologue, at least one member of the Burial Agency (likely Karen) uses normal weaponry against vampires. Also, the chance of spontaneous vampirism like Satsuki likely has more to do with what type of victims vampires target. Sion became a vampire immediately as well. Vampires seem to avoid prey that threatens them.