Talk:Avenger (Fate/Zero)

Who do we count this as again?
So, excuse me for the silly question, but for the purpose of the disambig header buttons, is this Avenger an alternate version of Iri, Avenger, or both? From dev comments I've read about "black Iri" in Zero (and my own interpretation of the scene), the character is basically Avenger taking the "role" of Iri, the same way his form in HA is Avenger taking the "role" of Shirou (Nasu even compares the two cases and is amazed that Urobuchi was able to predict how that worked). And I guess while I'm here, would that also make the HA version of Avenger more of a "Black Shirou"? (But I am getting into speculation territory, sorry.)--Otherarrow (talk) 22:32, April 29, 2016 (UTC)