User talk:EGGS/Archive 1

Noble Phantasm articles
Hi, I'm responding to your edit of Lancer (Fate/Zero). While I agree to consolidating a few sentences articles into their parents (like what you did with some 27 DAA), NPs should be left in their own articles, for the sake of infoboxes and category listing. Plus, all NP already have basic info on them stated in Servant infobox, and their articles are linked from there automatically. Redirecting that back to servant articles makes for some illogical circular linking. Beside that, it's great to see another active editor:) Welcome --Azaghal 03:04, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome
Hi, welcome to TYPE-MOON Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the File:Gaedearg.jpg page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Azaghal (Talk) 01:30, May 18, 2010

Hi, I would really appreciate if you can check out my question on the help disk I posted today. Thnx again.

About the Phantasmal Species of the Elephants. They are mentoined in the Fate/complete material vol.3 World Material on the pbworks.com site. It is on the bottom of the site.

Coiuld you message me all the seperate Fate/-s?

I understand there is Fate/Stay night as well as Fate/Zero, but could you tell me all of them in chonological order?

Nimrod-0

Appearance that needed?
Is it relevant to add an Appearance section? I'm finding myself re-editing most of Minako22's edits and obvious information that everyone could see. Ankoku暗黒 21:07, December 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * They can be helpful if they're actually well done, but I don't consider them really necessary seeing as we can just add images most of the time. Minako's additions are particularly annoying because they are an eyesore and add nothing truly relevant. The real purpose of such sections should be for descriptions used in the stories like Caster being described as a "witch out of a fairy tale" or all the pages of detail about Saber's natural beauty and whatnot. So I'd say feel free to kill them instead of rewriting them if you wish. EGGS 21:29, December 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * So I removed most of those edits, in particularly Gilgamesh's and I'm having second thoughts on whether to remove or rework both Gil's and Sakura's. Your opinions? Ankoku暗黒 16:08, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * If the sections can be built off of in-story descriptions of the characters, it is probably fine to have them. I think Gil gets described quite a bit throughout all three works. I don't know about Sakura, but at least using the section to differentiate the "dark" appearance would be fine. EGGS 16:31, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Neco Arc Bubbles?
Wasn't it Neco Arc Babbles? Anime News Network listed it down as that. Ankoku暗黒 19:41, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

I've seen both used before. TMA7 romanized it as Bubbles, so I would say that is the official spelling. EGGS 19:54, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Character Appearance?
Um excute me how come I can't add Matou Kariya, Uryuu Ryuunosuke, and Gigamesh even though his appearance was fine was it is....but how come? User:Minako22 3:58, December 24. 2011 (UTC)
 * You cannot speak English properly, and I personally do not feel like fixing every single one of your edits. The information you add is fairly pointless seeing as we have images, so nothing is lost from just removing the information. Again, I suggest either finding another wiki in whatever language you speak, or drastically improving your English if you wish to be able to contribute to this one in a helpful manner. EGGS 00:42, December 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * What about appearance of Gilgamesh even though it make senses and good desciption but it still delete though that someone ready correct it. User:Minako22 6:08, December 24. 2011 (UTC)

Moon Cell
Hi EGGS, I'm new here and I want to help. I've included two photos here:
 * Land of Steel.

And I want to ask about the Moon Cell's page. It'll have a page or just leave in that way on Fate/EXTRA's page? I just want to know.

Thanks for the attention!
 * It'd probably be best to create an article called Moon to describe its relation to TM and the vampires, and have Moon Cell as a subsection. EGGS 22:02, January 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * All right. Here: Moon.


 * I'll re-read the articles to relate correctly. Eiyuu.ou 20:39, January 13, 2012 (UTC-3)


 * I've made a prototype article and I want your revision: http://www.mediafire.com/?htehh7fhhlgc70n 15:52, January 14, 2012 (UTC-3)


 * It seems fine for a first pass. Anything else that needs to be changed or added can be done over time. EGGS 19:00, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * All right, thank you and I will try to help every time! See ya. Eiyuu.ou 18:40, January 14, 2012 (UTC-3)


 * EGGS, does exist any form to block an IP? I do not know if you've seen this, but. . Beyond that "KAWABUNGA", the IP 90.41.13.98 had placed this "The Assassins ( Ezio Auditore )". Seriously, this type of "joke" pisses me off. Eiyuu.ou 13:59, January 18, 2012 (UTC-3)
 * I don't think an admin has been around for almost a year now, so I don't think there's any way to request for one. Something like that's only used for constant spamming anyway. It's probably not necessary for just a few bad edits. EGGS 16:12, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Administration
Hi, I'm Arrancar109, administrator to the Bleach Wiki and somewhat of a casual editor here. Recently I looked into this Wiki's list of administrators, and I found out that the only administrator listed is InsaneZero, who has been inactive for over a year and a half. If he's the only administrator here, I would like to discuss the possibilities of getting a more active administrator on this wiki, if you're interested. Arrancar109 (Talk)  04:32, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * There's also Azaghal, but he has also been gone for about the same amount of time. I'd say getting new one would be a good idea. EGGS 16:21, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see now. I'm glad that you're willing to discuss this. I know you're a regular user here, so you probably know who else still accesses this wiki regularly as well. However, I was wondering if you know if anyone would use the wiki's forums? I think it's the best place to discuss this with the TYPE-MOON Wiki's community, but I'm not sure how often the forums are accessed, nor do I know if the other regular users here view the Recent Activity page to notice it. Arrancar109 (Talk)  19:33, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's pretty much inactive for the most part. There have been more people recently, but who knows if they'll stick around. The amount of regular users is probably less than five if they're not counted. I've never seen anyone use the forum function aside from a couple random inquiries, but I imagine anyone who cares enough would probably stumble across it eventually. EGGS 19:47, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * In that case, I can create a forum post discussing nominations, but in order to get the discussion moving, you would need to notify those regulars, so the site can have a fair vote. Would you be willing to do this? Arrancar109 (Talk)  20:04, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that seems fine. I'll just leave a message for anyone who has edited more than once so far this year. EGGS 20:29, February 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, I've gotten the forum posted at Forum:Administration Nomination. I've set up a little bit of preferences in nominations there (namely the nominees have contributed pretty well, and that they have a good understanding of the wiki's policies), but overall, you can nominate anyone there, including yourself. Once you guys have agreed upon the ideal administrator, I'll help get that individual the position. Arrancar109 (Talk)  21:19, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Alrighty, since everyone seems to be in favor of you being nominated, it's time to take the next step. If Azaghal makes you an administrator, that would save considerable time, but since nobody's sure of whether or not he'd be able to due to his RL circumstances, your best approach would be at w:Community Central:Adoption Requests. They pretty much outline the requirements I did when I make the nomination forum post. Make sure you explain the situation regarding the current run of administrators, as well as linking them to the Administration Nomination Thread, so they know that the active members of this Wiki voted. Good luck. Arrancar109 (Talk)  23:59, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Character appearance
EGGS Thank you so much for putting it back I mean it in a good way! User:Minako22 1:24, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Adopting Wiki
Hi. Thanks for holding a discussion on the wiki before making your request. I've given you admin and bureaucrat rights. Good luck with the wiki! -- Wendy (talk ) 04:43, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Here to help
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly on my last two talk page entries. Just wanted to let you know I'm here to help. I'm no editing whiz, but I'll do what I can, just let me know what I can do, okay? ^_^ Hawkeye2701 19:36, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Why Shiro and the others male master and servant Archer delete?
Hello EGGS!

I was just wonder since you make great desciption on Gilgamesh, you can do the same to others male masters to were delete and Archer as well. Since you are really good at it. User:Minako22 24:11, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Whether I work on sections depends entirely on my interest at the time. As it stands, your sections are pointless and hard to read, so there is no point in keeping them around or reformatting them. I may eventually add them if I come across a detailed in-story description, but it isn't a priority to take the time to replace each section I delete. EGGS 19:29, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I kinda don't get it..... but I thought it make to be interesting of their appearances or maybe design. User:Minako22 2:53, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

So Black/Blade Wing/s Worms?
If you've noticed Kariya Matou's page, SOMEONE added something called a "Black/Blade Wing/s Worms" as part of his abilities. I have yet to watched episode 14, but the name sounds really made up or something. Mind withholding that part until we've gotten further info or something? Ankoku暗黒 18:22, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's what they're called in the novel's translation. EGGS 18:32, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh I see, I kinda procrastinated in reading the novel, when the anime came out.... Ankoku暗黒 18:38, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Gilgamesh in Fate/CCC.
It's been a while EGGS!

''Fate/Extra CCC from Imageepoch and Marvelous AQL has a new servant – Gilgamesh. Called a "hero king" in Famitsu’s preview, players will be able to partner with Gilgamesh or returning servants Saber, Archer, and Caster.''
 * Source - Siliconera.


 * What do you think about it? New paragraph on his page or just a new article? Eiyuu.ou 13:58, April 18, 2012 (GMT)
 * An article should be fine considering he is technically a different character. Does it say if he is called Gilgamesh or Archer anywhere at all? EGGS 17:59, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * ―新キャラクター

●「ギルガメッシュ」（関智一） 自ら英雄王を名乗るギルガメッシュが主人公の命に従う？サーヴァントとして登場. 画面写真では主人公男が跪いている？実力や素性は謎. クラスはないと自称している.

● "Gilgamesh" (Tomokazu Seki) Claiming to be his own hero king Gilgamesh follows the life of the hero? Appeared as a Servant. In the photo screen hero is kneeling man? Ability and background is a mystery. That there is no self-styled class.


 * Source - Yaraon.

Eiyuu.ou 18:02, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

You're the only one I know to go to regarding this, but recently UltraOmegaSonic1000 has been making edits in the "Also Known As" sections of the character infoboxes for certain characters of Fate/Stay Night. I'm not sure about some of them, but I reverted his edits on a couple of character articles. Please look into these edits as soon as you are able. Thank you. Arrancar109 (Talk)  03:29, April 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * It looks to be titles from Fate/unlimited codes, so they're fine. EGGS 03:39, April 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay. Thank you for clearing that up for me. Arrancar109 (Talk)  00:18, April 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Tomorrow will be Ciel's birthday. I uploaded the celebrating image, could you please change Akiha's message at homepage to this one?Pokokichi 13:44, May 2, 2012 (UTC) Pokokichi.

Images.
Hello, I noticed there are few images on the various character pages around here. I was wondering if it would be alright with you to add more official images (such as artbook scans or game endings) to the articles, or is this Wikia cutting back on the number of uploaded images? --Zeikfried 11:26, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, images are fine. Just try to make sure they depict something relevant described in the text, and obviously don't go too overboard on smaller articles without a ton of space. EGGS 21:24, May 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, understood. I'll only add images related to the information on an article.--Zeikfried 03:19, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding changes made to Prototype Archer/Gilgamesh.
Hello EGGS, a question on your changing of:

"He is better at reading a situation than his counterpart."

to:

"While he is not an evil person, he has a callous personality, and he is a man unable to read the situation. "

The original was translated from this line:

だが金ぴかよりも、王様気質でも、空気読めない男でもない

from this page: http://wiki.aniota.info/1325318349/

It translates roughly into: "However moreso than kinpika[Gilgamesh], even with the kings deposition, he is not a man unable to read a situation."

Was this translation in error, or is it that you erred in your change and meant to refer to him as 'not a man unable to read a situation'?

Also from that page is: 他の人を雑種と呼んでいない

"Does not refer to other people as 'mongrels'".--Ravewind
 * I got it from his Prototype material profile. That page is just another type of wiki, so those should just be their own observations rather than anything concrete. EGGS 08:23, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just realized that they should be different translations of the same sentence, so I have no clue which one is correct in that case. EGGS 08:47, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hello EGGS, I have spoken with Lianru, the poster and translator and she has modified her post on the above link you gave to now read: "However, he doesn’t have the same kingly temperament as the Gil from Fate/Stay Night, and is a man who is not unable to read the situation." --Ravewind

thanks man ill let you know if i need help with anything

Recent images.
I think it would be best if you moved most of them to proper file names, as those random numbers are kinda hard to work with without the old copy/paste. Though a lot of it seems to be either random Fate/Zero screenshots (which can stay I guess? Your choice) and fanart (which needs to go) Just a heads up. Sorry for any trouble.--Otherarrow 20:16, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Fate/Strange Fake
Hello. I had a random question, in reference to your posts of the Strange Fake Servants. Any idea where I could find and read, or find and purchase it?

-Zahadrin
 * There is a partial translation here. It will likely be a while before it is complete. EGGS 22:39, June 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you much.

Regarding that screenshot in on the Heaven's Feel section of Saber's Wiki.
Regarding that screenshot in on the Heaven's Feel section of Saber's Wiki.

I would like to propose that it should be gotten rid of seeing how it basically spoiled the ending of that route for me.

It's true that a Wiki is filled with spoilers. But it's easy to pick and choose what to read when it comes to text, avoiding the spoilers. That's not so much the case with pictures. It's hard to avoid looking at those.

I came to the page to look up and review her role in first 2 routes to see if I missed any crucial details as well as read up on her personality, but unintentionally saw the picture in the third route, thus ruining the ending, and what seems to be a climax moment, for me.

Yes, there are pictures of Alter Saber all over the page, but a picture like that can leave much room for speculation as to what actually happens in the game, whereas the picture of Shirou stabbing a Saber with the caption of "Shirou defeating Alter Saber" pretty much is a deadgiveaway.

Considering how she is a main protagonist, I don't agree with the page having such a picture.

Would you agree?
 * The only reason other pages lack images is that no one has bothered to place them there. Ideally, each article should have an image (or more) defining the character's role in each route, so most articles in their complete forms will have spoiler images just as bad as that one. The personality section will eventually also describe Saber Alter in decent detail, so that's another area where spoilers can easily be abundant. The only way to completely avoid spoilers is to avoid using wiki articles. EGGS 01:11, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Thule Society article
Hi EGGS, just seeing that last change on mage societies, I can't say anything for that data in canon, but yeah, the Thule society was a real group in Nazi Germany who researched magic and the occult with several high ranking members of the party being members and the name is taken from some distant land to the north that was later identified, but other than that, I can't say if it has any bearing on the canon, so it might just be worth noting it shares the name or something, I dunno. Hawkeye2701 15:16, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Template gone wrong?
I dunno if I should put this here but I hope it helps...

In the "servant stats" chart, the "show/hide" button has gone suddenly missing in pretty much all pages, so I guess someone edited the template. 201.250.98.95 06:08, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's working for me on both Firefox and IE, so it may be something from your end that's making it not work for you. EGGS 14:54, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm on Chrome, and it's not working... It happened out of nowhere, a couple of days back it was still working. I turned all plugins off and it's the same, Dunno then... 190.137.174.249 07:49, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * It works fine for me on a fresh installation of Chrome, so I would say it's definitely from your end. EGGS 11:08, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Editions.
Hi EGGS! Well, I've been reading the editions of Saber made by 94.173.152.215, and the part:

"She used Excalibur to destroy the Holy Grail and its contents once and for all."

Sounds incorrect, after all, we have Hollow Ataraxia and and we know that the "content" of the Holy Grail is Angra Mainyu. But, if we look about the information of Lord El-Meloi II has dismantled the system, is somewhat correct to say this. But I prefer your opinion about this. - Eiyuu.ou

EGGS, it would be good to put something related to the END of Ryougi Shiki's story mode with Archetype? Or something like this?

Archetype Earth: So it seems. The providence of the Air (Sky) and the providence of the Star (planet) are separate things, ours paths ones that will diverge one day and move apart. Archetype Earth: And yet It cannot suffer even that? Apparently, It has deemed that if they are fated to conflict, it is all the same to conclude things here. Archetype Earth: What impatience. The fault lies in that your Aspect is an Order that encompasses all. It is all well to have many options, but to lack uniformity is a deplorable thing is it not? Ryougi Shiki: What the.....I can't see your death isn’t the problem, no, you have no death. Ryougi Shiki: You're........so, you're the one. Archetype Earth: Yes, you need say no more. The target the Being that summoned you to eliminate is this vessel, the manifestation of lifespan (Life) most far-reaching on this planet. Archetype Earth: But even that is of little meaning, for you, you came simply to bring death to that which does not die, did you not? Your actions are ones drenched with emotion, but I will not mock that.''
 * ''Ryougi Shiki: ........! What is this aura!? You mean I got the wrong one!?

Ryougi Shiki: Heh, so you want revenge for that weirdo huh? All of this is going to be a dream anyway and everything will be back just the way it was when we wake up, but my, aren't you the faithful one. Ryougi Shiki: But hey, why not? You got me interested, monster, because I can understand just how you feel. Archetype Earth: That is excellent. Then. Flee in terror, peon. End my smile with thy death. Ryougi Shiki: Says you, vampire. Whatever you are, however many billions long your life is, it doesn't matter. Ryougi Shiki: Either way, it's the end of the dream. Let's do it. I'll show you that I can kill anything alive, even God.'' Eiyuu.ou (talk) 18:12, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * ''Archetype Earth: Because, I am the same. Gazing at the severed limbs scattered about there, I cannot help but make a terrible smile. Thus, I will answer your provocation.
 * What do you mean exactly? It's perfectly fine if you want to do Melty Blood story summaries for any character, but definitely don't stick any transcripts in articles if that's what you're asking. EGGS (talk) 18:27, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * No no! I do not want to post transcripts! Sorry, I've expressed myself badly up there. I wanted to mention more about the conversation between Ryougi and Archetype in Arcueid and Crimson Moon's article. But before editing, I wanted to know from you if I could post something related (explaining) about the dialogue, because it has nothing related to Melty Blood in Crimson Moon's article (neither accurately about Archetype:Earth) and nothing about this conversation in Arcueid's article (but mentions both Ries and Ciel). I'm just asking because I don't want to mess up anything. Eiyuu.ou (talk) 19:06, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * It'd be fine in Arc and Shiki's articles, but I'd leave it out of CM's article. AE is more Arc than CM, so the most that the CM article needs is a note that the other personality in Arc emerges in the form of AE. EGGS (talk) 19:17, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

It is time to start creating separate articles for Apocrypha's chars? Eiyuu.ou (talk) 16:04, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd be fine with at least Joan of Arc getting her own article. Either way, we've made pages for strange fake characters with less info.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:34, July 16, 2012 (UTC)