Gawain, Lancelot and potentially Percival no diff the others. Between them I'd give the edge to Gawain but Lancelot will do Lancelot things.
Galahad would solo though.
Cú wins imo.
Argonauts imo, I think normal Heracles + Caenis + the support of the others will give them the win, but Gil always has the chance to do it. Karna+ or the Round Table have their chances too.
He isn't slow but Achilles is way faster, I don't think Mind's Eye can help much there.
Tbh even if Achilles couldn't kill enough lives, Berserker Heracles ain't ever touching him so I guess stalemate.
For me it'd probably be:
Karna or Ozymandias.
Scáthach.
Alcides.
Artoria.
Yoshinaka.
Arthur is stronger than Artoria in almost every way though, specially NP. But yeah Arthur and Artoria both would win vs Yamato.
I think Gilgamesh would win (unless Quetz leaves her Servant form and goes into full God mode but that'd be cheating), probably Quetz over Ozymandias but it depends and Alcides last of all, but as always if he gets his hands on NPs and stuff... but I doubt he can get close or withstand these NPs to begin with.
True. Poor Lancelot lmao, he's gonna die for sure (I love the man, it's no disrespect).
Ah ok, I understand that better now, my bad too. And yeah, it's really a free for all where everyone has even some odds of winning.
Yeah, also, Karna, Quetz and Scáthach have amazing defenses (specially Karna) so that's another thing.
However, on the topic of Enkidu, he has the ability to allocate his stats whenever he wants (and he has A rank stats on all stats so that's crazy), so he can be really dangerous. Maxing defense would put him near Karna on that aspect (but unless Karna he can keep it after using his strongest NP) and he has amazing regeneration, damn, and max speed (i mean, you get me, doesn't need to be all speed but focusing on that) would be key to counter certain Servants (like Alcides) or attacks, and focusing on attack would make him dangerous to the 3 high defense ones I said since he'd have unbelievable offense. Truly fearsome, no wonder he's a match for Gilgamesh.
First, you've literally just talked about how Yamato's NP isn't actually all that powerful.
But the main thing is that I didn't mean it like Siegfried's armor NP would just make him win, but rather that with everyone being decently matched and all having powerful NPs (Artoria's Excalibur isn't really that more powerful than the others here (it'd only be if Excalibur releases enough seals but that never happens unless you know it's Sefar or some Beast or the fate of the world is at hand)) Siegfried's insane defensive capabilities will prove deciding.
And no, the armor doesn't work like that, it substracts B rank from any attack or NP, so an A rank would be E rank (explicitely stated), A+ would be E+, not even D, literally nothing (an E rank NP is stronger than an E rank attack, but still minor damage). It's similar to Karna's armor reducing the damage to 1/10 of the damage.
Yeah, Alcides is very powerful and can potentially become much more so, but I think if he doesn't steal one he won't be ablel to keep up in the long run. And if any of Quetz, Karna, Scáthach or Enkidu land a NP on someone, they'll most likely be out for good (but we know that isn't how it works in Fate somehow).
And I wouldn't count Scáthach out at all. She's just as powerful and probably the most skilled one (or tied with Lancelot) and her NPs are literally Gae Bolg instant-certain-death and the Gate one which is very dangerous (I doubt it'll be able to suck any of them, but it says that it will deal great damage to the opponent if they do not instanty die by being suck). The others also have great NPs, I'm not saying Scáthach neccesarily wins, just that she should be easily able to compete with them as well.
Quetz (Servant) or Enkidu for me. Though the rest (except Lancelot who's superbly skilled but lacks "powers") are all among the very top of Servants and I think they still have their chances, specially Karna, I think these 2 are just a level above. If it was normal Herakles though, that'd be interesting to see.
I think Lancelot is the best fighter if we're talking about skill, but taking into account powers and stuff I think Siegfried will win in the end because of Armor of Fafnir.
Bro really woke up and decided to throw some of the strongest out there wow.
Facts all around, specially the first one.
Artoria's (and HF was less sad imo than her going away in Fate route) death is like a fifth at most of what Sakura's death is,
Arthur my goat. 😩
Based Irisviel love. For me here it'd be a tie between Irisviel and Arcueid, follow by Rin, though I really like the rest too.