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{{nihongo|[[Quantum_Time-Lock#Adjacent_Worlds|Parallel Worlds]]|並行世界|Heikou Sekai|lit. "Adjacent Worlds"}} are the set of extant {{WPlink|parallel universes}}. |
{{nihongo|[[Quantum_Time-Lock#Adjacent_Worlds|Parallel Worlds]]|並行世界|Heikou Sekai|lit. "Adjacent Worlds"}} are the set of extant {{WPlink|parallel universes}}. |
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| − | Although most works share a similar foundation where it could be said that they take place in the same world, there are actually two primary types of worlds, {{Nihongo|[[Fate]] Worlds|Fate世界}} and {{Nihongo|Tsukihime Worlds|月姫世界}}. Fate worlds are based in the "Affirmation of [[Human Order|Human History]]" where [[Heroic Spirit]]s can be summoned as [[Servant]]s, and Tsukihime Worlds are based in the "■■■■■■■■ of Human History" where the concept of of summoning Heroic Spirits is laughable and where [[Dead Apostles]], the antithesis of Human History, stand at the center of the story. There are worlds that "aren't really either" type of world that do have elements of both for unknown reasons.<ref>[http://www.typemoon.org/bbb/diary/ |
+ | Although most works share a similar foundation where it could be said that they take place in the same world, there are actually two primary types of worlds, {{Nihongo|[[Fate]] Worlds|Fate世界}} and {{Nihongo|Tsukihime Worlds|月姫世界}}. Fate worlds are based in the "Affirmation of [[Human Order|Human History]]" where [[Heroic Spirit]]s can be summoned as [[Servant]]s, and Tsukihime Worlds are based in the "■■■■■■■■ of Human History" where the concept of of summoning Heroic Spirits is laughable and where [[Dead Apostles]], the antithesis of Human History, stand at the center of the story. There are worlds that "aren't really either" type of world that do have elements of both for unknown reasons.<ref name=":1">[http://www.typemoon.org/bbb/diary/ The BAMBOO BROOM DIARY - 2017/4/15: Nobunobuno, nobunonobunobu.]</ref> |
Parallel Worlds are normally accessible to others only through the Second Magic; though, in [[Fate/Extella]], [[Caster_(Fate/Extella)|Archimedes]] and [[Lancer_(Fate/Extra_CCC)#Fate.2FExtella|Dark Eliza]] are able to [[Caster_(Fate/Extella)#Adjacent_Movement|Slide]] between them by way of a System Administrator privilege granted by [[Moon#SE.RA.PH|SE.RA.PH]]. Characters of many different settings can interact and gather in [[Ahnenerbe]]. |
Parallel Worlds are normally accessible to others only through the Second Magic; though, in [[Fate/Extella]], [[Caster_(Fate/Extella)|Archimedes]] and [[Lancer_(Fate/Extra_CCC)#Fate.2FExtella|Dark Eliza]] are able to [[Caster_(Fate/Extella)#Adjacent_Movement|Slide]] between them by way of a System Administrator privilege granted by [[Moon#SE.RA.PH|SE.RA.PH]]. Characters of many different settings can interact and gather in [[Ahnenerbe]]. |
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*The stories of ''[[Kara no Kyoukai]]'' and ''[[Tsukihime]]'' were originally considered both to be small happenings in a single world.<ref>[http://www.tsukikan.com/misc/staff-roundtable-the-second-night.html Staff Roundtable - The Second Night]<br>Speaking of Tohno, did you ever think of doing a crossover with 「Kara no Kyoukai」?<br>Nasu: No, even though the word rules (special powers/magic) are the same. They're both just small happenings in a single world. That's why the first main character I made is Aoko-san.</ref> Afterward, due to slight differences in the ages of certain people and differences in the makeup of certain families, they can be thought of as subtly shifted parallel worlds.<ref>{{#lst:Encyclopedia/Misc|KNKTsu}}</ref> |
*The stories of ''[[Kara no Kyoukai]]'' and ''[[Tsukihime]]'' were originally considered both to be small happenings in a single world.<ref>[http://www.tsukikan.com/misc/staff-roundtable-the-second-night.html Staff Roundtable - The Second Night]<br>Speaking of Tohno, did you ever think of doing a crossover with 「Kara no Kyoukai」?<br>Nasu: No, even though the word rules (special powers/magic) are the same. They're both just small happenings in a single world. That's why the first main character I made is Aoko-san.</ref> Afterward, due to slight differences in the ages of certain people and differences in the makeup of certain families, they can be thought of as subtly shifted parallel worlds.<ref>{{#lst:Encyclopedia/Misc|KNKTsu}}</ref> |
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*The world of ''[[Notes]]'' takes place in an undetermined future where the [[world]] dies while humans continue to live on its body, and its current state involves [[Crimson Moon]]. |
*The world of ''[[Notes]]'' takes place in an undetermined future where the [[world]] dies while humans continue to live on its body, and its current state involves [[Crimson Moon]]. |
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| − | *The worlds of [[Fate/stay night]] and [[Lord El-Melloi II Case Files]] are in the same parallel world, El-Melloi Case Files is a dense story of magecraft in exactly the same world, but with a slightly different atmospheric density.<ref>Fate/strange Fake v.1 Afterword - Commentary Nasu Kinoko</ref> |
+ | *The worlds of [[Fate/stay night]] and [[Lord El-Melloi II Case Files]] are in the same parallel world, El-Melloi Case Files is a dense story of magecraft in exactly the same world, but with a slightly different atmospheric density.<ref name=":4">Fate/strange Fake v.1 Afterword - Commentary Nasu Kinoko</ref> |
| − | *The worlds of ''[[Fate/stay night]]'' and ''[[Fate/Zero]]'' are different parallel worlds, as revealed in TYPE-MOON Ace Vol. 10. ''Zero'' is a world with the same terms as ''stay night'', but subtly different<ref |
+ | *The worlds of ''[[Fate/stay night]]'' and ''[[Fate/Zero]]'' are different parallel worlds, as revealed in TYPE-MOON Ace Vol. 10. ''Zero'' is a world with the same terms as ''stay night'', but subtly different.<ref name=":4" /> |
| − | *The world of ''[[Fate/strange fake|Fate/strange Fake]]'' is a future possibility, called by Zelretch a pseudepigraphon (or perhaps the opposite) that is somehow completely different despite having the same terms and reaching the same conclusion as ''stay night''.<ref |
+ | *The world of ''[[Fate/strange fake|Fate/strange Fake]]'' is a future possibility, called by Zelretch a pseudepigraphon (or perhaps the opposite) that is somehow completely different despite having the same terms and reaching the same conclusion as ''stay night''.<ref name=":4" /> It's also a world that has the characteristics of both Fate Worlds and Tsukihime Worlds at the same time, the same as ''[[Fate/Grand Order]]''.<ref name=":1" /> |
| − | *The worlds of ''[[Tsukihime]]'', ''[[Mahou Tsukai no Yoru]]'', and ''[[Clock Tower 2015]]'' exist in the same parallel world, separate from the world of Fate/Grand Order<ref>''The Bamboo Broom Diary, August 14th'' - "Clock Tower 2015 is in the world of Tsukihime and Mahou Tsukai no Yoru. In that world, a certain someone XX in order to protect the present, and so the events of FGO don't happen. No one knew about his achievements but he protected both the past and the future.</ref> |
+ | *The worlds of ''[[Tsukihime]]'', ''[[Mahou Tsukai no Yoru]]'', and ''[[Clock Tower 2015]]'' exist in the same parallel world, separate from the world of Fate/Grand Order.<ref>''The Bamboo Broom Diary, August 14th'' - "Clock Tower 2015 is in the world of Tsukihime and Mahou Tsukai no Yoru. In that world, a certain someone XX in order to protect the present, and so the events of FGO don't happen. No one knew about his achievements but he protected both the past and the future.</ref> |
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===Apocrypha Universe=== |
===Apocrypha Universe=== |
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+ | The world of ''[[Fate/Apocrypha]]'' is a parallel world to ''Fate/stay night'' where the timeline differs during in the [[Third Holy Grail War]]. Apocrypha is a world that was the same up to a point, but which is now completely different.<ref name=":4" /> |
*The [[Einzbern]] summoned a [[Ruler]]-class servant instead of [[Avenger]]-Class. |
*The [[Einzbern]] summoned a [[Ruler]]-class servant instead of [[Avenger]]-Class. |
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The Second Magic (第二魔法, Dai Ni Mahō?), known as Zelretch or Kaleidoscope, is one of five remaining Magics.
History
Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg had already achieved it several centuries ago when he used it to kill Brunestud of the Crimson Moon. It is said however that even Archer, the only known Servant from the future, would be unable to comprehend it.
Effects
The little that is known about "Kaleidoscope" is that it encompasses the Operation of Parallel Worlds. Zelretch himself uses it frequently to move through parallel worlds, though due to his age he cannot use it as extensively as in his youth. Two of his inventions, the Kaleidostick and his trunk, also use the Second Magic to some degree. In hollow ataraxia, Rin Tohsaka attempted to create a "miniature of a miniature" of the Jewel Sword in the form of a pendant that would allow her to observe the 'waves' from parallel universes, but this failed spectacularly.
Multi-Dimensional Refraction Phenomenon
The Multi-Dimensional Refraction Phenomenon (多重次元屈折現象, Tajuu Jigen Kussetsu Genshou?) is one fragment of the Second Magic, which is essentially the ability to create openings into parallel universes. One can then interact with the 'other side' through this gap.
The Jewel Sword and Tsubame Gaeshi, Assassin's sword technique, are both capable of causing this phenomenon.
Parallel worlds
Parallel Worlds (並行世界, Heikou Sekai?, lit. "Adjacent Worlds") are the set of extant parallel universesWP.
Although most works share a similar foundation where it could be said that they take place in the same world, there are actually two primary types of worlds, Fate Worlds (Fate世界?) and Tsukihime Worlds (月姫世界?). Fate worlds are based in the "Affirmation of Human History" where Heroic Spirits can be summoned as Servants, and Tsukihime Worlds are based in the "■■■■■■■■ of Human History" where the concept of of summoning Heroic Spirits is laughable and where Dead Apostles, the antithesis of Human History, stand at the center of the story. There are worlds that "aren't really either" type of world that do have elements of both for unknown reasons.[1]
Parallel Worlds are normally accessible to others only through the Second Magic; though, in Fate/Extella, Archimedes and Dark Eliza are able to Slide between them by way of a System Administrator privilege granted by SE.RA.PH. Characters of many different settings can interact and gather in Ahnenerbe.
- The stories of Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime were originally considered both to be small happenings in a single world.[2] Afterward, due to slight differences in the ages of certain people and differences in the makeup of certain families, they can be thought of as subtly shifted parallel worlds.[3]
- The world of Notes takes place in an undetermined future where the world dies while humans continue to live on its body, and its current state involves Crimson Moon.
- The worlds of Fate/stay night and Lord El-Melloi II Case Files are in the same parallel world, El-Melloi Case Files is a dense story of magecraft in exactly the same world, but with a slightly different atmospheric density.[4]
- The worlds of Fate/stay night and Fate/Zero are different parallel worlds, as revealed in TYPE-MOON Ace Vol. 10. Zero is a world with the same terms as stay night, but subtly different.[4]
- The world of Fate/strange Fake is a future possibility, called by Zelretch a pseudepigraphon (or perhaps the opposite) that is somehow completely different despite having the same terms and reaching the same conclusion as stay night.[4] It's also a world that has the characteristics of both Fate Worlds and Tsukihime Worlds at the same time, the same as Fate/Grand Order.[1]
- The worlds of Tsukihime, Mahou Tsukai no Yoru, and Clock Tower 2015 exist in the same parallel world, separate from the world of Fate/Grand Order.[5]
Fate/stay night Universe
The three routes of Fate/stay night can be called parallel worlds existing at the same time in some sense. When asked how the routes would appear to Zelretch, Kinoko Nasu stated that Zelretch observing the routes as parallel would make it "true", and that Nasu would prefer that only one route existed instead.[6]
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA Universe
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA has portrayed two existing worlds, there is the "World of Illya" and the "World of Miyu".
- The "World of Illya" is similar to the world of Fate/stay night and Fate/Zero.
- It differs as the ritual of Fourth Holy Grail War was stopped before it could even begin.
- The "World of Miyu" is different to the "World of Illya".
- Pandora hasn't opened Pandora's Box, thus her legend isn't well known to the people.
- The Ainsworth Holy Grail War operates on a Class Card system and was founded by the Ainsworth, Matou and presumingly the Sakatsuki.
- The World has experienced a shift in the axis of the world and the start of the depletion of its Magical Energy. The world is similar to Notes.
Apocrypha Universe
The world of Fate/Apocrypha is a parallel world to Fate/stay night where the timeline differs during in the Third Holy Grail War. Apocrypha is a world that was the same up to a point, but which is now completely different.[4]
- The Einzbern summoned a Ruler-class servant instead of Avenger-Class.
- The Greater Grail was removed from Fuyuki after the Third Holy Grail War and disappeared for many years.
Moon Cell Holy Grail War Universe
World lines of the Fate/Extra series
The world of the Moon Cell Holy Grail War shares the same events at that of Fate/stay night up until a certain point until a "certain major incident" in the 1970s that caused the world's mana to start drying up causes it to split off into its own separate universe. As of the 2030s, the world's mana was completely gone.[7]
- The "EXTRA" universe is where Fate/Extra takes place.
- Rin Route
- Rani Route
- The "CCC" universe is where Fate/Extra CCC takes place.
- Archer Route
- Caster Route
- Gilgamesh Route
- Saber Route
- Sakura Route
- Fate/Extra CCC Fox Tail
- Fate/Extella
Tsuki no Sango Universe
The world of Tsuki no Sango takes place in approximately the year 3000, when humankind arrived at the peak of its civilization, but is losing its will to keep living.
- It is a world in which the events of Tsukihime didn't take place.[8]
- Unlike the world of "EXTRA", Tsuki no Sango is a degenerated world where magecraft yet lingers.[8]
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 The BAMBOO BROOM DIARY - 2017/4/15: Nobunobuno, nobunonobunobu.
- ↑ Staff Roundtable - The Second Night
Speaking of Tohno, did you ever think of doing a crossover with 「Kara no Kyoukai」?
Nasu: No, even though the word rules (special powers/magic) are the same. They're both just small happenings in a single world. That's why the first main character I made is Aoko-san. - ↑
[] December of 2001 Avz:
It's the first post on the spoiler boards!
I'm asking this here since it's a bit of a spoiler.
The complete edition of Kara no Kyōkai coming out at the winter comiket is going to have errors corrected,
but does that include changes to the setting as well?
(For example, in Tsukihime the succession of the Fujou main family is done through the passing down of techniques,
while in Kyōkai it is determined by blood.)
Kinoko:
I'll answer that!
Regarding the Fujou, the setting isn't quite the same.
Though Rakkyo and Tsukihime have a lot of points in common, there are a few tiny differences in the details.
One of those is the Fujou. In reality they're actually ESP users like the Asagami, Ryougi, and Nanaya. But in Rakkyo they are a magi lineage.
Other than that... oh, right, there's Aoko's age. If Rakkyo and Tsukihime were the same world then Aoko would only be a little bit older than Tohno Shiki. The Aoko in Rakkyo has not yet gained the title of "Miss Blue", and is still training in Misaki Town.
It's probably best to think of it as subtly shifted parallel worlds.Avz：
ネタバレ掲示板に初カキコミです。
ここで、ネタバレっぽい質問になるのですが、
冬コミ発売の『空の境界』完全版では加筆修正が
行われるということですが、修正部分は設定も含めるのでしょうか？
(例:月姫では巫浄本家の継承は技術の伝承で行われていたが、
境界では、血統により継承がおこなわれていたフシがある点)
きのこ：
オコタエシマス、カタカタ。
巫浄に関しての設定は微妙に異なるのです。
何かと類似点が多い「らっきょ」「月姫」ですが、細かい所で異なる部分があります。
その一つが巫浄。実際、浅神、両儀、七夜は超能力に類する物ですが、「らっきょ」の巫浄は魔術師の家系です から。
他には……そうですねー、青子の年齢とか。「月姫」と「らっきょ」がまったく同じ世界だとすると、青子って 志貴よりちょい年上なだけになってしまいます。「らっきょ」での青子さんはまだミス・ブルーなんて呼ばれて おらず、三咲町で修行中だったり。
微妙にズレた平行世界、とでも思っていただければ幸いかと。 - ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Fate/strange Fake v.1 Afterword - Commentary Nasu Kinoko
- ↑ The Bamboo Broom Diary, August 14th - "Clock Tower 2015 is in the world of Tsukihime and Mahou Tsukai no Yoru. In that world, a certain someone XX in order to protect the present, and so the events of FGO don't happen. No one knew about his achievements but he protected both the past and the future.
- ↑
[] Fate/complete material III: World material - FAQ with Nasu: Miscellaneous, p.136
Q: Are the three routes of "Fate/stay night" parallel worlds existing at the same time? I was curious since I was how it would look to Zelretch.
Q: Are the three routes of "Fate/stay night" parallel worlds existing at the same time? I was curious since I was how it would look to Zelretch.
A: They're parallel... sort of. But if Zelretch was observing, it'd become true, and my feelings on the matter is that I'd rather two routes disappear if one was true.
If all of these became possible at the same time, the other routes would become meaningless.Ｑ：「Fate/stay night」の３ルートで、同時に存在する並行世界なのでしょうか？ゼルレッチが見ていたら、こんな感じに見えるのかと思いましたので。
Ａ：一応並行ですね。ただゼルレッチが観察しちゃうと、それは事実になっちゃうんで、奈須きのこの気持ち的には、どれが１本が真実ならば、ほかの２本は消えてほしいなって願いはあります。すべてが同時でアリになっちゃうと、他のルートが意味のないものになってしまうので。 - ↑ Fate/Extra Visual Fanbook - Page 079
- ↑ 8.0 8.1
[] TYPE-MOON Fes. Official Pamphlet 10th Anniversary Q & A Booklet:
Q: The concept of Tsuki no Sango is the "degenerated what if scenario" of Tsukihime 3000, but is Tsuki no Sango a potential future of Tsukihime universe?
Q: The concept of Tsuki no Sango is the "degenerated what if scenario" of Tsukihime 3000, but is Tsuki no Sango a potential future of Tsukihime universe?
A: Tsuki no Sango is a world where the event of Tsukihime did not occur. Different from EXTRA's "what if" scenario, the one of Tsuki no Sango is "a degenerated world where magecraft yet lingers". Tsuki no Sango has a Land of Steel type of world.Ｑ：月の珊瑚の裏コンセプトが「月姫３０００」で『退廃的なイフ』とされていますか、月の珊瑚は月姫世界 の未来の可能性の一つなんでしょうか？
Ａ：「月姫」が起きなかった世界というか。でもエクストラのイフとも違う、「魔術残ってたけど退廃的な世 界」という扱いで一つ。「月の珊瑚」はどっちかっていうと鋼の大地系です。