EX Endurance Edit
Does that mean his physical body is so durable it could survive an Excalibur Blast? Or that it just takes a heck of a lot more to actually damage him?
- You have to remember that Ex doesn't necessarily denote a direct level of power, it simply can't be quanitified as normal, normally possessing a quality unlike anything else.
- In the case of Spartacus, not only does he get stronger as he is damaged, but he costs less to heal, his phantasm is all about getting hurt. Basically while other servants possess multiple skills which give them varying traits, everything Spartacus does is geared towards achieving one goal. Taking damage in order to do more damage. So having endurance that actually prevents damage is incompatible with this battle style. It is more likely in this respect that Endurance reflects his ability to sustain damage and continue to function.
- For example -:
- Sabre got injured by Lancer in Fate/Zero. While not a grievous wound, it was enough to prevent her from utilizing her phantasm.
- Berserker here, got impaled through the abdomen repeatedly by Lancer's phantasm and continued to smile like a lunatic seemingly with next to no drop in battle power apart from being pinned.
- So like I said, this is likely not a comparison of damage resistence, but simply withstanding the effects said damage has on one's combat ability.
- This is my view on it by the way, so I'm not entirely sure, but to my understanding, unless met with an attack or defense of similar calibre, nothing survives Excalibur. Hawkeye2701 (talk) 01:42, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough, that I understand. =) Though, I read somewhere that Spartacus died after being impaled. Do you know if that's true or not? Zahadrin (talk) 02:36, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
From what I've understood, once impaled Berserker uses his own Phantasm and the pair just smile at each other, leading me to believe that even if he does die, that battle wasn't nearly over. I do know that Astolfo and Homunculus flee the scene during Berserker's rampage, but I don't know if that's before or after he engaged Lancer. By all indications, he likely survived the impaling, but whether the battle continues or they are interrupted, I've no idea. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 16:29, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
In my opinion, I figure it would take something that's an instant and unavoidable one hit kill to take him down and that truly ignores his ability to endure, such as the Ark or Vasavi Shakti.
« The servant character sheet says he has no master. »
- Yes he had a master and it wasn't Shirou Kotomine. If you read the novel, he wasn't Shirou's Servant because Shirou was manipulating his real master. Afterwards he got captured by the Black faction and changed sides. They never stated who was his real Master.(Nikonu (talk) 17:13, June 1, 2014 (UTC))
- I think it's more of whether or not Shirou convinced his Master, Berserker didn't give two craps, and went on his merry way about fighting whoever he pleased, thanks to Caster's gift of knowledge on the enemy's location. Zahadrin (talk) 12:55, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
- But then why didn't Berserker's master became Shirou like the other 4 of them? That's what I mean. Apparently his master is still the summoner Sandubadear (talk) 17:47, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I think I see the misunderstanding. Shirou isn't actually their master. He basically convinced the other masters to hang back and let him take command of the red faction with the exception of Sabre team. So he doesn't actually have the command seals for Berserker, so with the Masters back in London or where ever not knowing what's going on, Shirou can only exert so much control. So when Spartacus decides to revolt, there isn't really a way to stop him. At least that's my understanding about it, I could be wrong. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 18:24, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
- Yep, something like that. But in the servant character sheet it says that Shirou actually is the master of Archer, Caster, Lancer and Rider. But it says nothing about Berserker. Sandubadear (talk) 19:41, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
I guess depending on when the character sheets were added, it could be accounting for the fact that he revolted. So while he's still recieving prana etc. from his real master, having turned against Shirou, he no longer has one. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 20:50, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
- “Was it okay to make Caster the Master of Berserker of Red?”
- Though Gordes had lost Saber, he still had one of his Command Spells left, and continued to possess the rights of a Masters. If he were to make a new contract, it was only be natural to do so with Berserker of Red, but—
- The contract with Berserker had already been completed with Caster as a proxy Master.