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And lo and behold, her Rider Self appears in Fate/Grand Order Arcade. Zahadrin (talk) 08:22, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

Da Vinci is trans and the pronouns on the page should reflect it. 71.120.222.201 18:54, September 17, 2019 (UTC)

No, that is not at all the intention of the character. The whole page definitely needs a rewrite, but that's not part of what needs to be done. EGGS (talk) 19:45, September 17, 2019 (UTC)
What, pray tell, IS the intention of the character who deliberately altered her body (twice) to be female, consistently refers to herself as female, and gets mad when others slip up and refer to her by her birth assigned sex?95.216.15.219
"Before a true genius, gender and age are rendered meaningless." EGGS (talk) 01:27, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
And yet she gets mad when misgendered and is consistent with her pronouns, so clearly not so meaningless in that specific sense. Of course, if you're arguing that IS the case, then you should be arguing she's agender or enby and her pronouns would be They... And yet in the edit history I clearly see you call her a guy. Hm. 51.158.69.142 01:41, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
You're way too obsessed with labels, like that other person trying to label Astolfo as gender neutral or whatnot. Da Vinci the HS is a guy. Da Vinci the Servant incarnation has a female body. That is how they go with it in the materials. Putting your own subjective spin on it is nonsensical. You do not get to decide how a fictional character feels. EGGS (talk) 12:55, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
You're right, the writers do with how they present the character. Thus we have female identifying da Vinci and enby Astolfo, among others. Rather than those trying to actually follow what TM and DW has written, it seems the one who is deciding how the character feels by fiat is you mate.71.120.222.201 22:51, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
Ok, there's no sensible discussion to be had with you. I'd block you for block evasion, but it's pointless with IPs. I'll only bother if you edit the page in such a way again. EGGS (talk) 23:11, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
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