IIRC Ciel was 23 years old in Tsukihime, since she was born in 1976 (I took the information in Ciel route), and the time in Tsukihime started at Oct 21st, 1999.Walruspoko (talk) 14:40, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
Parentage[]
- "Ciel (whose real first name is Elesia) was a normal individual born in France to a French father and an Oriental mother."
That's kind of vague. 'Oriental mother'? Can y'all be more specific? --Gwern (contribs) 02:41, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Nope. "I looked like my mother, who was oriental" is as specific as she got. Wakame 02:58, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
- That's unfortunate... Are there any allusions or anything which might point to the mother being Japanese as opposed to Chinese or Korean or something? --Gwern (contribs) 15:23, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
- She mentioned in the summer festival in Kagetsu Tohya that her father had went to Japan sometimes. Not sure if her mother was Japanese.Pokokichi 15:25, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
- That's unfortunate... Are there any allusions or anything which might point to the mother being Japanese as opposed to Chinese or Korean or something? --Gwern (contribs) 15:23, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
Ciel's Full Name[]
Is it ever stated that Ciel has a last name anywhere? o.o Or is just her first name and "Dead" name Elesia known? Zahadrin (talk) 23:35, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
- I am pretty sure just Elesia is ever mentioned. At least, it's the only one mentioned in Tsukihime.--Otherarrow (talk) 00:19, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
Ciel's paradox existence[]
What would likely happen if Ciel was killed by the mystic eyes of death perception while her existence remained a paradox? Since the world does its best to prevent her from being killed because of the contradiction it would it create, how would such an event effect the world itself?SageM (talk) 06:37, January 21, 2016 (UTC)SageM
- In the Akiha route, there's a bad end in which Shiki kills Ciel by cutting her head off using a line on her neck. It's unknown what happens after, but I think it's implied that she simply dies and that's it. Sandubadear (talk) 17:36, January 21, 2016 (UTC)
POWERED Ciel > NUN Ciel?[]
Is it ever confirmed if "Powered Ciel" is actually stronger than regular Ciel when she is dressed like a nun? Outisde of having better equipment such as the Seventh Holy Scripture or Black Barrel is she actually PHYSICALLY Stronger/Faster as well? What is the purpose of her tattoos? I haven't been able to find any information regarding the topic.GuessWhoYoutube (talk) 09:15, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- If i remember well Ciel in that mode becomes more suitable to fight, because she uses auto suggestion, just like Shiki Ryougi, but i don't know if her power grows like Shiki's, but probably does, in other way i suppose, because Ryougi when uses that, is just using some power of the Void. About the tattoos i don't know, but i have a theory that they are a requirement of the rituals she went through.--Migerto (talk) 10:29, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't her using suggestion "Melty Blood only"? Or does it apply to old Tsukihime as well? I was curious if her tattoos give her a power up or something.GuessWhoYoutube (talk) 10:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes she's physically stronger because she's using reinforcement to make herself stronger to use seven as her main weapon. Considering she's going all out and when she was acting cold in her full gear in Tsuki she was using self suggestion there yeah. The self suggestion doesn't inherently buff her but it makes her more cold and efficient as a fighter so she actually starts using Roa's stronger numerology stuff as a trump card. Powered Ciel is stronger in Melty than normal because she's using six months worth of magical energy that she has saved to fight/spam seven.--Crimson Moon1 (talk) 11:52, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for powered ciel using reinforcement + suggestion outisde of the 6 month mana buff she got in Melty Blood? I might have missed it if it was in the VN.GuessWhoYoutube (talk) 13:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- She mentions it in her melty blood scenario in Re-act? I believe but it doesn't change much. The mana buff is just a difference in tank size to allow her to spam Seven and magecraft for longer, the potency of her reinforcement and self suggestion wouldn't be affected by it, + as Ciel says she uses reinforcement to be able to wield Seven as a weapon effectively in Melty.--Crimson Moon1 (talk) 15:43, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for powered ciel using reinforcement + suggestion outisde of the 6 month mana buff she got in Melty Blood? I might have missed it if it was in the VN.GuessWhoYoutube (talk) 13:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes she's physically stronger because she's using reinforcement to make herself stronger to use seven as her main weapon. Considering she's going all out and when she was acting cold in her full gear in Tsuki she was using self suggestion there yeah. The self suggestion doesn't inherently buff her but it makes her more cold and efficient as a fighter so she actually starts using Roa's stronger numerology stuff as a trump card. Powered Ciel is stronger in Melty than normal because she's using six months worth of magical energy that she has saved to fight/spam seven.--Crimson Moon1 (talk) 11:52, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't her using suggestion "Melty Blood only"? Or does it apply to old Tsukihime as well? I was curious if her tattoos give her a power up or something.GuessWhoYoutube (talk) 10:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)