Ancestry Edit

Should King Arthur be listed as a confirmed relative or ancestor already? It seems to only be Waver's musing that it's a possibility, but even if it were true, how would it be possible? Neither King Arthur nor Mordred lived to have children, Gawain and all of his brothers were killed before they could sire more generations, and there's no one else who's actually in Arthur's family line (Kay was only a foster/adoptive brother, not blood-related). 17:56, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't bet on it, while that may be true of Arthurian lore, Type Moon has a tendency to fudge the details. Not to mention, given Gray looks just like Arthur and has one of the King's Noble Phantasms, I think it's safe to say she's related at this point, even if it's not a direct line to Arthur. Hawkeye2701 (talk) 20:05, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
But then that begs the question, where in the ancestry line could she be from? I'm not completely familiar with the mythos post-Arthur's death, but did he (she) have any blood-tied family members (even distant or cousins, like Gawain's side of the family) left to even have children? 20:26, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
Well from hat research I've done, Gawain had a son, but he died hen Lancelot ent nuts. Arthur, at least in Welsh lore had 3 sons, but by the time we're into the French and middle English sources, he only has two, one of which died childless. What's interesting though is that Mordred is acttualy ascribed 2 sons and given it was Arthur's spear that finished him off, it seems quite possible that one of these children could have carried the weapon down through the line. Hawkeye2701 (talk) 21:03, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
Nasu King Arthur and Nasu Mordred are both 14-15 year old girls physically, I think it would be fairly tasteless to assume they had children like that. Even the method through which Mordred was made circumvents the need for King Arthur to have actually done anything untasteful beyond being the victim of a bad joke from Merlin and having her DNA stolen through unprecised means (that is to say, we don't know the exact method used to do what was done). And yeah, Gawain, his brothers, and his son, all died around the same time. 21:26, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
Except Arthur was really 30 something at a conservative estimate, and Mordred was some form of Homunculus, so I've no idea what her actual age is. Besides that, social convention of the day, either easily could have had kids, especially if you consider the origins of these games as H-games, I think it's less "tasteless" so much as practical to consider the possibilities of one's family line in that era. Having said that, we have Gray, who is the spitting image of Arthur, so she clearly has to be related by blood in some manner, and if not explained in story, therefore only leaves us actual Arthurian lore to fall back on. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 21:39, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
To be fair the number of characters who are the spitting image of King Arthur and yet aren't related at all is pretty staggering. 21:59, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

It's not really staggering, it's 3. Nero, Jeanne and Souji, and Jeanne isn't as close as the other two either. Apparently there's like seven people on the planet that look just like any one of us, but that's not the point as I pretty much anticipated that response. Simply put, it's unlikely they would call attention to the similarity and speculate to some relation between the two if there really is no relation, especially given she's actually wielding one of Arthur's weapons. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 22:43, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Grey or Gray Edit

EGGS please could you tell me where did you found she is romanized as "Gray" in every official translation?

Your reasoning is faulty in the first place. Someone in England could name their child “Color” and someone in America could name their child “Colour.” There is no such rule for names. It has never been romanized as “Grey” in any instance of which I’m aware. EGGS (talk) 17:15, June 14, 2019 (UTC)
Ok, but I asked where you found "Gray" in any official romanization. --Rubinetto (talk) 13:33, June 15, 2019 (UTC)
Volume 1's character introduction. EGGS (talk) 14:00, June 15, 2019 (UTC)
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