Talk:King

Edison

Is King of Inventers a legitimate title for this page? It's mentioned on Tesla's page. Zahadrin (talk) 08:26, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

"King of inventors" is something they actually call Edison in Japan. They have monuments in his name with that title and all. That being said, "king of" is something they do like to use, it's not that Edison is so much of a special snowflake. I'm not completely sure how that relates to the other "king" titles in Fate, but then again, there really isn't any way to differenciate them. 80.119.104.55 14:26, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

Romulus

Shouldn't Romulus be included here as well? His profile calls him the King of Nation Founding (建国王), which by its format seems to fit the rest of these...88.115.164.91 18:48, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

King Titles

Seeing there are some confusions, I wanted to make some clarifications. This page should not include just "King of X" titles, but also "X King" titles. This is because of what is written in Japanese. 戦士の王 (King of Warriors) for Sigurd is as much as a title as 建国王 (Nation Founding King) for Romulus.

Which goes into the "X King" titles. Artoria, Iskandar, Gilgamesh, and others all have the style of writing "X王" for their sovereign nicknames. If someone wanted to only keep the "King of X" titles, why is not Artoria, etc. considered for removal? While people are already used to it, it's more accurate to describe Artoria's title as Knight King, not King of Knights, especially since some later characters have the "Xの王" styles that is more accurate for "King of X".

Lastly, this goes into how Gilgamesh's King of Heroes title is not unique. I've read his CCC matrix in Japanese, and there's a reason they put a 英雄王 entry. If it was translated more commonly, it would be Hero King. But that title suggests a king who is also a hero. However, the entry explains that it's more of a king over heroes, hence King of Heroes that people use. They made the entry to explain that the title Hero King for Gilgamesh is more like King of Heroes, and thus, a king of all heroes is only unique to Gilgamesh. The title itself is not unique; in Arash's FGO materials, Fereydun is described with the title 英雄王 (Hero King), the same as Gilgamesh. But I assume that while Fereydun and Gilgamesh should have the same title name, the meaning is different for both of them regarding those titles. Fereydun the Hero King is a hero who is also a king, while Gilgamesh the Hero King is a king over all heroes.

P.S., if Artoria and Iskandar was translated as Knight King and Conquest King (征服 in Iskandar's title refers to the aspect of conquest, not conquerors themselves, so I thought King of Conquerors is misleading as it makes people believes Iskandar is a king over conquerors when he is more a king who conquers), then the reason why 騎士たちの王、征服する王 is used in Gilgamesh's matrix would be more clearer (a king of/over knights, a king that conquers, there are other kings who fall within that same domain)

N/A 02:33, March 12, 2019 (UTC)Clyton

Sorry for asking.

You misread the matrix. It says the Hero King title is the only unique title of the "king" titles, unlike Artoria and Iskandar's titles. It's bizarre since I just checked the materials and sure enough, Fereydun is referred to as a Hero King as well. *shrug* Honestly this page is jank. The qualifications for what Servants end up on this page are so arbitrary I'd prefer they remove the page altogether (Dantes is an example. Why does Charlie Chaplin qualify but not him). Zodiac21 (talk) 10:40, March 12, 2019 (UTC)