"the family head of three generations past, Zepia Eltnam Oberon, became a Dead Apostle, Tatari, around 500 years ago"
HUM ! When is it said that this was 500 years ago and how does 500 years make only three generations? Zepia's first appearance as Tatari was three years prior to Melty Blood, as it's when he took the name of Night of Wallachia from the legends of Dracula. Also the contract with Altrouge was to last a thousand years when the red moon will come back, and Arcueid summons that red moon from... a thousand years into the future starting from now. I can accept that it was give or take a few years, but 500, I don't think so. --Byakko 19:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
"But the true heir of the Archibald house is actually a little girl in the lowest seat of the clan. She gave him the title while saying "I recognize your deeds to the Archibald family, but since you were only making up for what you caused in the first place, you better serve me for your entire life", thus literally binding him to her."
I'm just wondering what the source for this is. I haven't read Fate/Zero yet, nor have I seen Charater Material.
Norfür 01:10, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Character Material, Lord El-Melloi II's pages. --Byakko 16:24, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
Matou Shinji Edit
This is a debatable thing, but should Shinji really be on this page? Isn't one of the most defining aspects in his psychology that he can't be a normal Magus? Twelveseal 23:41, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Technically, he's pretty much the perfect example of what a magus family can end up with, so it does hold some interest to mention him as part of the family, I guess. --Byakko 02:15, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
Shirou as successor.Edit
So I do know that he isn't a true successor, but he IS the only servant that came from the future. And his clan did time manipulation. Just a food for tought.184.108.40.206 16:29, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
I've gone over the list of real life Darjeeling tea estates, and though I don't have the katakana used for it, my guess is that the article is likely referring to the Thurbo estate. Since depending on the kana, it could technically be read as something like Talbot. Of course, depending on the kana, Nasu might just be making up stuff, but considering there aren't that many Darjeeling tea estates, and the potential similarity, this might be it.
Just giving my two cents. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
So I've looked through the Fate/Extra Material and checked the Archer pages and I've noticed something on the Robin Hood page. It says that the character's incarnation is he is the child of a wandering Druid, and he received knowledge of the forest from his Druid father, to survive in the forest.
Now I'm no expert on fantasy and old religions. But are Druids suppose to be similar to Shamans and witches/warlocks. Cause it is states somewhere that they do practice a form of Thaumaturgy and magical rituals in their religion. In fact I've also read somewhere that they mentioned something about using the magic of Fairies and nature spirits to help gaining knowladge.
It ain't very important, just a discussion to get some info.
One little point of curiosity which I've been wondering about recently, is how things would likely turn out with the Harweys following the events of Moon Holy Grail War in the Extra and Extella timelines (excluding Last Encore). As a result of the war, they lost the heir which they had invested in and failed to acquire control of the Moon Cell. Additionally in Extella, after the Velber incident, there is also considerable migration from the Earth to the new SE.RA.PH, with Hakuno Kishinami as its ruler, with powerful Servants and the power of the Moon Cell through the Regalia at their disposal. It seems somewhat likely that the Harweys would have taken a considerable blow and see a threat to their power, but given the circumstances how likely do people reckon it would be that they would reach for the Moon Cell again in order to retain their grip (though they'd probably be not as great a threat as some of the more recent foes)? 220.127.116.11 18:59, June 3, 2018 (UTC)
With this whole thing translated by Beast's Lair since years ago, I think the Einzbern need a page on their own.
18.104.22.168 14:17, October 24, 2018 (UTC)