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... So, is "kara" the same as "Akasha" ? At Jonnobi (and Tsukihime Labs), all I find is that "kara" can simply be named "kongen no uzu" to make it simple, "but it's actually a little different" (apparently "because if it has a name, it's not "kara" anymore already"). So, should kara go in Akasha or Akashic Records ? --Byakko 00:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

The original context of what was being said in the rakkyo dictionary was that there isn't anyway to say 『』 because it's just in written terms, it's just a blank space backed up by quotation marks on each side, so Kinoko was wondering how to deal with that in the drama CD. (Technically, the translation of that should be "because Kongen no Uzu has the name Kongen no Uzu....")

"United Language theory" - what. Is that a TM thing or is it a real-world reference? --Raijinili 02:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with Rakkyo and Kurogiri Satsuki, but that theory pops out in the construction of the tower of Babel - the biblical version. There was one language, and when humans tried to build that tower to reach God, He punished them by making them have different languages so they couldn't understand each other anymore (again, that's the biblical version of the tower of Babel). That and its consequences fit with what's in this article, and also works with the diversification/spreading of magecraft that also meant a decrease in its quality. And though I dunno if the "real world" does have a theory that there was a unique language, there certainly is a theory that a lot of languages are derivated from each other, and there have been "maps" of which older languages split into which other recent languages and so, with many lanauges "converting" into much fewer languages as we would go further earlier in history. Dunno if that theory mentions there being one unique original language. --Byakko 15:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
There's a bit of info about it buried in the List of Magic Spells article. Also, from fuyuki wiki : "Astral plane - The information body of the world. The Unified Language operates through the astral plane. Also where the soul is found. Not so much a place, but a 'concept'. Not the Root itself, but close to it." I was under the impression that Caster was using this language for her High-speed Divine Words skill. but it doesn't seem so.
As for the real world references, it's like Byakko said, though reading through a few Wikipedia articles, it looks like actual scientific theory is aiming towards finding a common traits inherent to all languages (possibly hardwired into human brain), rather towards a singe proto-language. --Azaghal 16:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

So technically Akasha is supposed to be Heaven and hell or the world of all (the land of the living and the dead).

No. It's a big washing machine and a giant diary. It's not a "land". --Byakko 08:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

That's it. That is it!!! My God what the @#*%#!! You mean to say that the mages are just commiting Genocide, and screw others just for the whole wishing thing, and that there are no heaven like land of ultimate and unlimited knowledge which they were trying to get to achive and gain knowledge from!!!! BLOODY HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fate/Zero case... the headacheEdit

Well it isn't a headache per say, but can both editors get to an agreement please, with a reference link to ace vol.10 for people to make their own conclusions about it ? To me, it doesn't make sense for this novel to be "parallel canon", as I always see parallel worlds as a method to safely avoid plotholes and inconsistencies between series set in the same universe.

But seriously, fix that issue here, please. Doing and undoing information like this is confusing -- Hitsuji Mamoru (talk) 04:32, June 12, 2016 (UTC)


even the title is {fake}, a form of future, which cannot be accomplished is {Fake}.
To writer Narita Ryougo, it is just his own parallel world, created merely by his imaginations.
As an example, the relationship between elkindu and gilgamesh: in both {fate/stay night} and {Fake}, their conclusion is the same, but the process has been slightly changed.
Concerning the differences between all of {fate series stories},
F/Zero is {same kind of set-up/setting as {F/stay night}, but slightly off in a sense}.
F/Apocrypa is {Same until it reaches a turning point then suddenly changes into a very different setting}.
Lord el meloi ii case file is {Same world, but Sanda Makoto's spice caused changed in the setting and focused mostly on magic related stories}
Finally {Strange Fake} is same setting, and same ending but, somehow turns out to be a different universe.
- Fate/strange fake 1st release review

Spinoff series has a slightly off settings and changes in their own universes from {Fate stay night}, so they have relatively high amount of freedom in the form of writing in each stories, but {Lord elmeloi ii case files} has the same universe as Fate/stay night, so Sanda (the writer) is trying his best to not contradict the story line between the two.
- from a part in type moon ace vol.10 Narita Ryougo Interview

英語はできなくてただコピーした内容を書き込みます

So, some events in F/Zero are written in a way that it cannot work with what F/stay night established, but characters, Servants and main events are for the most part present in every universe ? (you can answer in simple Japanese, I can read it) -- Hitsuji Mamoru (talk) 05:44, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
いいえ
とても異なる場合もあります
Everything is different in this setting ? So, no Irisviel, no Kayneth, no Waver in Stay night timeline? Iskandar or Bluebeard cannot be candidate Servants in there either, then? Well, I don't like it. I can't argue or deny because that's how Nasu decides it to be, but I don't like it. Anyway, thank you for clarification ! -- Hitsuji Mamoru (talk) 07:00, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
いいえ
SNの四次聖杯戦争はzeroと似ています
ただ完全につながらない平行世界で、同じ世界ではないということであり
平行世界の中にはとても違う世界もあるという事です
そしてこれが公式設定というのです
SNとzeroは別の世界だというのが
The only thing that changes is that Nasu isn't the one who wrote it. There actually isn't any irreconciliable difference from Zero to Stay night, it's just that if Nasu had written it, it wouldn't have happened like that, that's what's "slightly off in a sense." Someone said it before, but it's very obvious they only said that to not take any risk in case Nasu wanted to give details of his own later on. The "different world" is the different writer. 85.171.50.204 10:42, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
That's what I was thinking of. As Zkftm said, both wars most likely have similar elements, but Zero is in a parallel world. As the person above me said, that's probably because Urobuchi isn't Nasu, and can't say his story is 100 % accurate. I wish Nasu would deliver his own submarized version so we can have our "official" canon.
The question is : how do we explain that in the "Parallel worlds" section of this page? -- Hitsuji Mamoru (talk) 10:56, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
Japan doesn't have a strong sense of canon like the western world because they never had canon wars in the past, so they don't care about it but only about what is an official work and a doujin one. Zero is the best thing you will get and what will be referenced in the future as the Fourth War in all the works. 91.117.77.74 12:16, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
SNとつながっていなくてもすべての平行世界は正史です
ただSNとつながらない平行世界であるだけで、すべてofficial Canonです
There are parallel worlds but there are still consider part of the official canon ? Fair enough. I never tried to thought it that way ! It surprisingly makes sense -- Hitsuji Mamoru (talk) 03:33, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
はい
SNとつながれば正史
SNとつながっていなければ正史ではない
このような概念ではありません
zeroが平行世界ということも含めて
なぜか西洋にはよく知られていないようですね
I don't know for other westerners but the concept was indeed a bit confusing for me. But now it all makes sense. The Nasuverse is indeed a wide one, where everything is possible thanks to parallel reality, as long as the general concept is present. Once again, thank you ! -- Hitsuji Mamoru (talk) 06:40, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
いいえ、私こそ私の言葉を理解してくれてありがとうございます

From where it's that image? KamiYasha 20:07, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

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