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Ciel's birthday Edit

Today is Ciel's birthday. Please change the message at homepage to hers (

Pokokichi (talk) 11:33, May 3, 2013 (UTC)Pokokichi.

Another, deletionEdit

Hey EGGS, Favor Could you please Delete this Blog of mine called Sir Kay yeah I need it deleated.

here is the link:

Also Sandubadear has been kinda harassing me lately. Could you please tell him that I don't tolereate Net Trolls.

TQ sign Shawn Warrynn (talk) 02:51, October 26, 2014 (UTC)Shawn Warrynn

Potential Insight to Apocrypha Servant list Edit

Do we know if any of this is true or not? Zahadrin (talk) 03:44, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

It looks a bit too speculative to say anything definitive. It would be best to wait for a more proper translation. EGGS (talk) 12:18, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yggdramillennia Edit

Sorry, its written both ways in the Apocrypha article, being Yggdramellennia for the group and Yggdramillena for most of the surnames. Anyway, save yourself the trouble, I'll go round the articles and fix up the links when I've renamed them all. Don't want to hassle ya with my unfinished work. Hawkeye2701 (talk) 22:37, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Right, think that's everything properly named and categorised more or less... Thanks for updating which war it is. I heard Apocrypha was still based in Japan, so a good thing I didn't bother trying to put that in, woulda been way off. Still, if there's anything else to write up, let me know. Hawkeye2701 (talk) 23:08, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Well some eidts have been made to Danik and Fiore already which I can't verify. So if you could keep an eye on them to avoid fanfiction articles I'd appreciate it. In the meantime, sleep is required. Hawkeye2701 (talk) 01:13, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


Ah. My mistake, EGGS. Thank you for clarifying that. I was suspicious, because none of the other Masters had theirs listed. 21:04, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

I won't make any changes myself, because I don't know where to find the Apocrypha material, but a non-registered user changed Roche Flyn Yggdmillennia's gender to male. Arrancar109 (Talk) 00:15, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Using Google Translate on the Japanese Wikipedia profile gave something along the line of androgynous boy, so I assume it's correct. EGGS (talk) 01:37, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Ah. Thank you for clarifying, EGGS. I wasn't sure, which is why I didn't do anything. Arrancar109 (Talk) 21:54, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Wiki background Edit

Just letting you know that Wikia has fixed the gap on the Theme Designer's Moon wallpaper. The current background should be updated. — WiKiAN 17:27, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Reality Marble info source Edit

Quick question: where did you get that information on Reality Marble's generally being limited to the Caster class?  I can't find a source anywhere.Gore17 (talk) 03:20, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

It's from Extra sometime during the Caster week. EGGS (talk) 16:20, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Arcueid's PersonalitiesEdit

In EGGS, could not separate the personality of Arcueid in two more sessions, one for Red Arcueid and the other for Archetype: Earth, The same manner as Shiki Ryougi? This two personalities are vastly different from the current personality of Arcueid.

It would be fine to do so, so long as it isn't in broken English. It is not something you can accomplish, so please do not try again. I or someone else may get to it eventually. EGGS (talk) 22:39, February 4, 2013 (UTC)


A mere suggestion but alot of type-moon characters are related so I think it would great to have a drop down box like the servant stats to show the list of spouses or family.

I've toyed around with something like that before, but it never comes out looking decent. If you think you can get something decent looking, feel free to go ahead with it. EGGS (talk) 17:15, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
I've played around with the drop down menu, check out Kiritsugu Emiya page and give me your opinion.Nikonu (talk)

Character ages?Edit

Why aren't any of the character ages showing up on their profile sections? Is there any particular reason? It's just I've determined the ages of certain characters in Kara no Kyoukai and I've been trying to input their age on their pages. I noticed that other wikis have their age included depending on signficant events but for some reason, nothing seems to be happening when I try to add them on their pages.

DementedP (talk) 07:59, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think there is an age parameter. You can add one by editing Template:Character, but I'd just stick them in the birthday parameter instead in cases where they have one listed. EGGS (talk) 16:16, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Character QuotesEdit

Hello, but can I ask if are character quotes suppose to be in character pages? Since, mostly, all anime/manga/game characters have quotes right? I'm just asking/suggesting. Dynasty101Warriors 06:03, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

If you mean a dedicated quote section, stuff like that and trivia are just unnecessary fluff. All such sections do is bring about people sticking in each quote they find witty instead of something substantial. If you mean specific, meaningful quotes to headline the article or a section of it, those are fine. EGGS (talk) 16:59, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Kara no Kyoukai Plot Summaries ReplacementEdit

I just realized that while a lot of info is included on the main "Kara no Kyoukai" page  to summarize the plot in each movie, there's incomplete information (most of which I can tell are from Wikipedia). So instead, I'd like to propose the idea of using plot blurbs that only mentions the premise of each movie without flooding it with a huge summary for each film. It's a lot less busy, and it could work as a better alternative than literally outlining what happened in each movie (not to mention the fact that some bits of info are incomplete on the current page). I found these official blubrs of each film from the Rightstuf page that sells the official DVD (directly link by Aniplex USA as their main distributor), in which it details the premise of each film without spoiling anything:

What do you think? Should we switch the current plot summaries with the ones in that link instead? I personally think they work better in giving an idea about the plot of each movie without spoiling much of it, not to mention they're the best well-written blurbs I've seen for the films. People can just visit the individual pages of each character if they want to know what happens (or they can just watch the movies) and this also helps to avoid having so much clutter on the main page. I mean even on the Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night page they only have the premise without utterly summarizing the story so I think it should be the same for Kara no Kyoukai in this case.

EDIT - Alternatively, if you don't like the short length of those blurbs, I can offer the text used in the official booklet from the recent DVD release of the movies. The booklet offers a good summary and/or premise of each film, and they're a bit longer too. Up to you though, if you think the ones on that site are good enough for us to use and replace the current lengthy summaries, then that's cool, but if you think that we need something longer, I can offer the official text pages used in the Aniplex DVD release since I own a copy anyway. 'DementedP (talk) 17:50, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

It's fine to shorten the summaries, but they shouldn't be directly copied from elsewhere (unless it's a Wiki with the proper content licenses and whatnot). EGGS (talk) 20:12, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
The link I gave is the official distributor that Aniplex links to on their "Garden Of Sinners" site if one wishes to purchase the official DVD, so I think that's pretty legit in that regard (the site is also Aniplex USA's main distributor for anime BD/DVDs eg. Bakemonogatari, Fate/Zero, etc.) If you're not comfortable enough with using the short summaries given on that site, there's also the alternative I proposed, which is to basicallly use the plot summary/teaser of each film that was included within the booklet of the official DVD boxset itself. If you can't decide, I can provide a sample of the plot summary from the booklet to give a better idea of how it's written in comparison to the short summaries on that site.  DementedP (talk) 00:22, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
I just meant the text shouldn't be directly copied. It's better for it to be at least semi-original when taking info from non-wiki sites. If you use the summaries as a base, and then add enough relevant stuff to make it notably different, that would probably be good enough. EGGS (talk) 00:45, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your appreciation. :D

Actually, my main source would be Beast's Lair, where many players have played Fate/Extra CCC already.Jc778778 (talk) 13:15, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Gilgamesh tabs?Edit

I've noticed Type-moon wikia has separated every incarnation of Gilgamesh. While they are different incarnation, they are the same identity. I'm suggesting we should create a parent tab template, this way we can separate tabs for profile, roles and abilities.

Example for tabs:

Tell me what do you think?

Nikonu (talk) 11:40, May 6, 2013 (UTC)Nikonu.

Thank's for the welcome! Saberlover (talk) 20:03, May 14, 2013 (UTC)Saberlover<3

Thumbnail errorEdit

Hi, I for your message to offer help if I needed. I've been uploading some pictures but I'm getting a thumbnail error on this page for some reason. any ideas? Fate_Stay_Night_-_Render_2Akovia (talk) 15:46, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea. I tried renaming it to see if that did anything. Try cutting its size by half and uploading it again. EGGS (talk) 20:14, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks EGGS! That seemed to do the trick. You can delete the first upload if you like.
CheersAkovia (talk) 12:20, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYAEdit

Hello! With Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA coming out soon as an anime, how would you feel about updating the main page a bit to showcase what the wiki has? I love the skin and wordmark so I would leave that, but I think it might be nice to have columns and custom headers. Maybe also feature some characters, images, and maybe videos? Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions :)

Grace@fandom 23:32, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

It would be nice to change it up a bit. I always end up blowing the entire thing up whenever I get in the mood to try editing it. Anything would be better than the current setup. EGGS (talk) 01:22, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Great, I'll get started on reorganizing it soon :) Grace@fandom 22:13, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hello! I'm done with the main page so feel free to edit any of my changes :) Grace@fandom 17:00, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Rin Tohsaka and Strengthening Edit

A heads up that there's an edit war I'm engaged in on the Rin Tohsaka page. She doesn't use strengthening (I've got the game running right now and double-checked), but people who are not logged in are reverting my edits. Sfoop (talk) 11:41, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Portal interface Edit

I'm working on the slider interface and I need permission to change the coding for the javascript.Nikonu (talk) 16:24, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't look like the protection can be changed, so just put what you want to add in User:Nikonu/Sandbox for me. EGGS (talk) 15:51, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
I've already posted up some codes up so I need to see if it works..Nikonu (talk) 19:40, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Changing the name of page Gaia Edit

The page Gaia dicusses the history of the planet Earth as well as both of its wills. So it should be changed into World instead of Gaia as this confuses the meaning. Gransurg Blackmore (talk) 18:27, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Fate Prototype/Argent Fragments Act 1 TranslationEdit


Waifu slayer (talk) 17:47, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sakura Saber. Edit

Oh, yeah. Here. It's not someone from Beast's Lair or anything, but I don't frequent that place anyway, so I wouldn't know. Sorry for the trouble.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:59, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind. The phrase can be read a different way. Could be wordplay. Sorry again.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:07, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Fate/Extra skill translations Edit

As you requested before, I got a friend of mine from elsewhere (TV Tropes to be exact) to translate the skill and Noble Phantasm names and updated the thread accordingly. Would you like if I gave you a link directly to the conversation? Anyway, sorry that this took so long.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:12, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Vandals. Edit

Sorry to pester you, but since you are around, could you block the vandals who came around earlier? I reported it to VSTF while it happened, but they haven't gotten around to it, and here you are! They are this person and this fellow. Thanks.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:01, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

NP Classifications Edit

What Noble Phantasms are of Anti-Mind and Anti-Gate? As I don't recall seeing any that fit that description. Zahadrin (talk) 16:15, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Saraswati Meltout has three different classifications including Anti-Mind and an untranslated entry for Berserker Li Shuwen's special ability that has been classified as a Noble Phantasm is Anti-Gate. EGGS (talk) 16:25, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
And Anti-City? Zahadrin (talk) 16:36, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Also Saraswati Meltout, so I guess it has five (Unit, Mind, City, Populace, World). EGGS (talk) 16:48, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Good Grief, with as large of scale as it is, they shoulda just left it 1 Classification. Zahadrin (talk) 17:01, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hey man I'm new in this kind of thing I love fate stay night so I want to contribute something. XD.

== Akiha


Today is the birthday of Akiha. Could you change the daily message in the homepage? Thank you.

Pokokichi (talk) 05:58, September 22, 2013 (UTC)Pokokichi.

KNK New Translated Info? Edit

Hey EGGS, I'm back after such a long time! I've been busy with university and helping out other wikis, but I've come back to try and help add and refine some of the info on the Kara no Kyoukai and it seems someone has added material translated from books! I was pleasantly surprised to read them all for each character. Do you happen to know who made the translations? I would honestly love to get a copy of them and it would help me in filling up the missing gaps needed for each character too. ^_^ DementedP (talk) 21:55, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to this. EGGS (talk) 16:41, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Creating templates? Edit

Hey EGGS, I gotta question. I'm working on this other wiki and was wondering if you could lend me a hand by answering something for me? Can anyone create templates, like character infoboxes etc. or is it only admins, and if aanyone can, how do I go about that? Hawkeye2701 (talk) 11:45, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Just create a page at "Template:X" and go from there. EGGS (talk) 15:16, October 2, 2013 (UTC)
Much obliged. :D Hawkeye2701 (talk) 16:22, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Ruler's Luminosite Eternelle Edit

I found a page that gave a rough summary of what occurs in the second novel, and from that, it seems Jeanne's second Noble Phantasm creates a Barrier-style Bounded Field type defense. Would it be worth anything to put that up, or should we wait till the translations are done? I understand in waiting, but I felt running this idea by you wouldn't hurt too badly. Zahadrin (talk) 22:19, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Given how much was wrong with the strange fake summaries, it's probably best to avoid relying on them too much. If it is from someone known to reliably translate stuff, it's probably fine, but avoid it if it's Google Translate or something. EGGS (talk) 22:30, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not certain as to the person's credebility, unfortunately. But this link is what I've found, so this is really all I got.  Zahadrin (talk) 22:33, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

No-Card Images Edit

The Caster and Rider Images are gone/broken. Zahadrin (talk) 20:12, December 23, 2013 (UTC)

Possession Edit

Simplified quoting: "Any servant can possess the human body if is in critical condition but it's rare."

"The first servant who possessed human body was Avenger, Angra Mainyu from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, who controlled Emiya Shirou's body and mind since he has no body but just void form. The theory that come from Rin Tohsaka was correct."

Source: Nasu's, Takeuchi's, Konoe's & Higashide's interview from Type-Moon Ace. first page

I guess the creation of the fake and the act of taking it over are two separate processes. EGGS (talk) 19:33, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
So you want to disagree with official Nasu's statement? Also, where do you get the certainty that Shirou in Hollow Ataraxia is just illusion? Whole thing with possession fits pretty well.

prologue Edit

what's the tsukihime prologue?

It's a brief background story on Arc and Shiki meeting their two Magicians. There is a picture version published somewhere and a video version included with the anime. I can't remember where to find a translation. EGGS (talk) 00:13, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Blog deletingEdit

EGGS, Please tell, how the hell I, can delete this blog. Cause everyone is just so fucked up now, because of it.

It is Called "Mor creative character Ideas of Type-Moon". I created it this blog site is for the purpose of making more creative ideas, to help Type-Moon, to innovate and develop new stories and characters. But now it has become absolute, Fucking, conflicting, webpage. all because Somebody, wanted Judas to come in as a servant. Please, don't banned anyone just help me delete the Blog. and end this Great debating Nightmare, over Judas Iscariot.

Look All of the Ideas were absolute shit with no hope of being made or used anyway. So please help me end it.

damn bro you're strictEdit

just cuz some anon made some stoopid edits u block him for 6 months lol.

maybe I'm at south park wiki and didn't notice lol Sandubadear (talk) 02:00, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

He's a blocked user repeatedly making edits anonymously. It's easy to tell from his distinctly bad English and focus on Melty Blood. EGGS (talk) 15:21, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

ah, ok, sorry then Sandubadear (talk) 16:39, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Roa's picEdit

Why don't you make Roa's pic be like some other characters that have tabs and you click on it and it changes? Then you can put something like "normal form" and "SHIKI Tohno". Sandubadear (talk) 23:21, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

The New BackgroundEdit

Who is the red-haired female standing in the center of the screen between Saber and Avenger?

E'Athanata (talk) 01:24, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Bazett Fraga McRemitz. EGGS (talk) 01:28, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. :D
E'Athanata (talk) 01:32, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Apocrypha infoEdit

Where are you getting those infos about Fate/Apocrypha? I follow the translation thread in the nrvnqsr forum but all he posts there is the novel itself, not info about Noble Phantasms. Sandubadear (talk) 17:03, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Track List TemplateEdit

Hey Type-Moon, I was wondering if you've completed your Track List Template, and if it's ready to be used. I've been looking for a track list template to add to my album pages (specifically, this one). It would be greatly appreciated if you could help! All the best, Nicholas. Npaproductions (talk) 22:39, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

It's functioning as far as I know, but I'm not entirely sure seeing as I only ever used it on one page. I grabbed it from somewhere else in the first place, so it should work unless it used some script in one of the css pages. EGGS (talk) 23:09, July 6, 2014 (UTC)
How do I go about using it? Making it work? Can you show me a bit of an example on that page as to how it set up, because when I go to the "Track List Template", the actual page is blank, but their is the Track List code inside. I'm gonna mess with it a little (outside of the Template page) and see if it works. An example as to how it is presented on a page would be cool! Thanks, Nicholas Npaproductions (talk) 15:22, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
It does not work, I've tried it on my Tomorrow Comes Today page, and well, see for yourself... Npaproductions (talk) 15:26, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
Hmmm? Help me mayneeeee. Npaproductions (talk) 01:12, July 19, 2014 (UTC)

Affiliation RequestEdit

Hello! I am the founder of a Hyperdimension Neptunia wiki, and would like to request an affiliation with the Type-Moon wiki. I hope for a favorable response. Thank you for your time. ~Purple Heart~ (talk) 08:08, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Sure. I don't see any issue with it. EGGS (talk) 15:49, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Here is my wiki's wordmark. Please add it the front page as you deem appropriate and I shall do the same. ~Purple Heart~ (talk) 21:21, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Request for AffiliationEdit

Hi, Eggs, I am the admin and bureaucrat of the Code Geass Wiki and would like to request an affiliation with our wiki. Here is our wiki wordmark. If you accept, I shall add this wiki's wordmark to our list of affiliates, which can also be found at the bottom of the Code Geas Wiki's main page. {{SUBST:User:Lelouch Di Britannia/Sig}} 09:24, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Sure. EGGS (talk) 15:43, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

akira Edit

plz make a page for seo akira :DD Sandubadear (talk) 00:33, August 4, 2014 (UTC)


I see you're separating the more minor characters that appeared to create their own wiki pages for these characters as having seen Natalia Kaminski for example. Very nice. Here you have a suggestion on what other characters are missing in my opinion in this order:

  • Red Arcueid
  • Archetype: Earth
  • Akira Seo
  • Hanei Misawa
  • Makihisa Tohno
  • Narbareck
  • Kaede Makidera
  • Kane Himuro
  • Yukika Saegusa
  • Norikata Emiya

Well that's my suggestion. 20:41, August 4, 2014 (UTC)Diogo Araujo da Costa

Red Arc and Archetype are part of Arcueid, and they're already mentioned in Arc's own page, so no.
I agree on the Akira page, though.
Hanepin, Makihisa and Narbareck are minor characters, so they are better in the minor pages. I'm not sure about the Track Club girls, that's up to you, EGGS.
Noritaka is notable, I think it's better to make him a page. Sandubadear (talk) 21:03, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for welcoming me. :)

i greatly apperciate your kindness.

I happened to be watching Fate/Stay Night Earlier in the night, the ended up on Type-moon wiki while trying to obtain an english hard copy of Fate/Extra for PsP when i came across your page on Beserker.

Anyway it is nice to talk to another fan of Fate :)

MadnessHEROZero (talk) 06:26, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Link with text files of the storymodes of Ciel, Arcueid, Hisui, Sion, Shiki and Wallachia extracted of update official patches of translation of MBAACC of mirror moon for update the Type-Moon Wikia those characters: and

Caster's NP Edit

How do you know the rank is D instead of B? Sandubadear (talk) 22:55, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Extra material. The reference had it wrong. EGGS (talk) 23:56, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
Then go and fix the reference as well. Sandubadear (talk) 00:10, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
Pretty sure I already did. Her Noble Phantasm stat is B even with the D Noble Phantasm if that's what you're seeing. EGGS (talk) 00:30, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Akiha's birthday Edit

Well, Akiha's birthday is coming. Could you change the daily message at the homepage to reflect it? You dont have to do it right now, just on Sept 22. Thank you.

Pokokichi (talk) 17:17, September 19, 2014 (UTC)Pokokichi.

Shiki Ryougi Meta Summoning. Edit

Me and a guy from Super Power wiki are discussing whether or not Shiki's third personality has this Meta Summoning power. I say she doesn't, of course, but the guy insists she can because stated she can do "everything"

what do you think? since you're the admin of TM wiki you might be able to convince him. Here's a link to the page: [1] Sandubadear (talk) 22:29, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

I guess it would depend on the interpretation of her abilities. She professes essential omnipotence in being able to grant any wish, but at the same time it is proven at least partially false in that Servants can beat her. Whether there is a very large "casting time" or some other limitation, she sounds burdened by having human form. There's also the fact that she describes it as "Not making change to the existing world, but rather annihilate the old one with a new reality", which sounds fundamentally different from that ability in that she only describes really large changes to the universe. Unless she were to have actually just easily popped something into existence during their conversation, I wouldn't include her as the poster child of the ability, but such sites probably run on such speculation anyway. EGGS (talk) 10:15, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks man. It's also a wiki, so they don't really have speculation (or at least shouldn't have). Sandubadear (talk) 12:01, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Nine Lives Edit

this page says:

« He [Heracles] utilized Nine Lives to simultaneously annihilate one hundred heads with a bow in order to slay it. »

It's not really a super 100% legit source to affirm it, but this basically says that F/UC Berserker's Nine Lives is the true way to perform the Nine Lives, a hundred strike combo (well, technically the really really really true Nine Lives is with the bow, but you can use the Nine Lives even with a shield, I wonder how) Sandubadear (talk) 01:03, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Another, deletionEdit

Hey EGGS, Favor Could you please Delete this Blog of mine called Sir Kay yeah I need it deleated.

here is the link:

Also Sandubadear has been kinda harassing me lately. Could you please tell him that I don't tolereate Net Trolls.

Another, deletionEdit

Hey EGGS, Favor Could you please Delete this Blog of mine called Sir Kay yeah I need it deleated.

here is the link:

Also Sandubadear has been kinda harassing me lately. Could you please tell him that I don't tolereate Net Trolls.

TQ sign Shawn Warrynn (talk) 02:51, October 26, 2014 (UTC)Shawn Warrynn

Trouble MakersEdit

Hi Sorry, to bother you but the three individuals Sandubadear, Hawkeye and Shawn Wrynn, have been causing a lot, of unnecessary drama as of recently. Despite their Constructive and helpful contribution to Type-Moon Wiki. I've noticed that They have been the cause of many out-bursts, comment fights and well trolling, according to some. Now, I've just recently received an apology from Shawn, Where he has seen the error of his ways. I still have yet to see the other two do the same.

If anything further happens, please take immediate action (as in, Ban their accounts for a few months like how the previous Admin did me) cause, seriously, Even though I was similar to them. At least even I didn't go so far.________________ChroniclerV (talk) 15:54, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Well I was planning on Writing a little something like this myself. Anyway, I'm agreeing with CV, Sandubadear, and Shawn are Behaving like as CV said "Stuck Up Jerks". Now I don't know what Hawkeye did, I know for a fact that the other two are behaving like trolls and causing stupid dramas, which nobody needs. Now I too have seen Shawn apologise, but, I don't think it is sincere. And Sandubadear, also has yet to respond. So If anything does happen please take action. Now I'm not suggeting Banning, not yet anyway. But do Give them a firm warning. Samever (talk) 16:07, November 11, 2014 (UTC)
OK, I don't really feel like delving into the actual discussions to figure out the entire story, so we'll just call this a clean slate. Whatever has happened is done with, people have been notified, and that is that. If they continue to be disruptive in the future, feel free to link to the specific comments so that they may be appropriately punished. EGGS (talk) 19:02, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

I was wondering why I was getting a message alert, I'd just like to point out, I've had nothing to do with the most recent mess over on Shawn's 'Sir Kay' blog. I'll admit, I think he's a bigger troll than the rest of us, but I've honestly been trying to ignore him. I've made one comment on the Sir Kay thing and that was a South Park joke in reference to Sandubadear's post, so why I'm getting accused of being part of the cause in this is beyond me. I'll happily avoid Shawn's blogs all together from now on though, if that helps maintain the peace. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 19:18, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just giving a blanket statement to everyone mentioned above. I really have no clue as to what is going on with all of it, and I really don't want to have any major involvement in it. If he wants to do his own thing without troubling anyone else, that's his business. If he does do anything disruptive, feel free to let me know. EGGS (talk) 19:34, November 11, 2014 (UTC)
"Just let him do as he pleases." It doesn't work like that. Having multiple accounts is passive of a block. Sandubadear (talk) 21:34, November 11, 2014 (UTC)
It really only matters in the case of bypassing an existing block, using them to sockpuppet in vote-related discussions, or for the purpose of mass harassment. I really can't block a guy for talking to himself about a fictional concept. The only thing block-worthy would be constantly using the site in a non-constructive way solely for the sake of building his "thing", but it really doesn't have enough traffic in the first place to warrant bothering with it. Basically, so long as he sticks to his thing without antagonizing others, it's just "whatever." If you think the whole thing is silly, just leave him be, but do tell me if he steps out of bounds in the way of conduct. As I said, I have no clue as to who has said what in the whole chain of things, so just call it all even as of now and ignore him from here on out. EGGS (talk) 21:42, November 11, 2014 (UTC)
"I really can't block a guy for talking to himself"
XDDD ok then. I'll try to ignore him to the best of my abilities. Sandubadear (talk) 21:44, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

No, wait a minute, This guy Isn't talking to himself, He is causing all kinds of stupid net-dramas and arguments, and is constantly swearing and cursing on the net. And Hawkeye, Sandubadear  you two were also doing the same as you two were the ones arguing with him. I saw it in the other blogs. Everyrthing was fine until you three guys got into a tiff about what knid of heroes should or should not be in the grail wars, and now it looks like an all out "Net-Piss-off War" on the Type-Moon Wiki.

I now, can't even remember what exectly was it really about. It was something about one of you guys arguing about not making Judas Iscariot a servant, to some thing about, Antisemitism, and some Crap about A "Anime Neo-Axisnism" theory, what ever the heck that is.

Look, all I'm saying is this is too much, crap. What I'm asking is that we resolve this matter, so that there won't be anymore cursing or swearing on the Wiki. Look if you may please, just warn this guy that if he continues with this. He needs to be blocked or even banned.   Now, I don't like the ideas of Blocking and Banning, believe me I've been there. But even I have to say, this is too much. Fanfic or not, no comments should be made too extream to the point of swearing and cursing like that. For Godsake there are fans outhere who could be or practically are kids, exploring the wikis. What Do you suppose would happen if they just stumble into such blogs?___________________ChroniclerV (talk) 05:24, November 12, 2014 (UTC) 

No, CV, it is okay the Admin, EGGS, says he's already address the matter to Shawn and the others. the matter's resolved.Samever (talk) 05:38, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
It's a clean slate as of this moment. I don't really care if people swear so long as it isn't to insult others. If he or anyone else is overly aggressive towards another person, please leave a link to the specific comments so that they may be blocked if needed. EGGS (talk) 16:40, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

NP Infobox Edit

Ay man, I wanted to change the infobox of Noble Phantasms, so instead of Owner it shows Users. Of course I'm talking with you before doing it because we'd have to change all the NP pages. There are three ways of doing it.

  • Just renaming the |owner= parameter so it shows "Users:" instead of "Owner:",
  • Creating a new parameter |users=, and then having a bot changing instances on all Noble Phantasm pages from owner to users (I already talked to a friend that knows how to use bots and he said he'll help)
  • Keeping the Owner parameter and add the Users, so, for example, in the page Avalon, Saber would be the Owner, and Iri, Kiritsugu and Shirou would be the Users.

Tell me what you think about it. Sandubadear (talk) 01:10, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

I'd think owner is probably fine for most of the cases. For users, there's really only the cases of Projection (but they can still be said to "own" them in a way and having Projection in parenthesis signifies that anyway), Class Card users in Prisma (but they can be put beside the actual "owners", the cards themselves), and the few cases where they can be partially given out (Avalon and Karna's armor). I'd guess an "other users" parameter for the third case wouldn't be bad, but it could also be put in parenthesis next to their names anyway. EGGS (talk) 17:35, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Extra CCC Edit

Have you played it? I'm playing (though I can't understand japanese) and I'm stuck in the -5th floor, there's a metal door and I have no idea how to remove it. Sandubadear (talk) 18:20, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Someone is pretending to be me. And about the same hour that Shawn sent me a message, wut? Sandubadear (talk) 12:18, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
That was weirdly pointless of them. If something like that happens again with the potential for harassment, I'll request a CheckUser for the offending accounts. And no, I haven't played CCC. EGGS (talk) 13:08, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Mental Link/Mental Bond/Spiritual Link/Spiritual BondEdit

Hi So I updated the Master section, and mentioned the Servant-Master Bond or Link

It goes something like this:

Traditionally, in addition to the Command Spells, a Master and Servent have a mental or Spiritual Bond or link, that allows them to seen and feel the things that the other sees and feels. The link also allows Servants and Masters to see into each others dreams.

During the Fate scenario, Shirou was able to see into his servant, Saber's dreams, because of their Servant and Master bond or mental link. This ability is also a major factor, that caused him to fall in love with Saber. In the Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feel Routes however, Shirou is unable to awaken this ability to allow himself to bond with Saber. Since he didn't bond with her mentally, a relationship never occurs. He permanently loses this ability in both routes, after getting their contract nullified by Caster and Sakura (as the Shadow).

In the Fate/stay night Manga however, it is revealed that his mental link to Saber still existed even after Caster disrupted their contract. The Servant and Master bond or mental link also enable Shirou to track down Caster and Kuzuki as Saber was with them at their battle with Archer and Rin.

Please feel free to look at it and critic it or edit it in the real Master Page.__________________Samever (talk) 13:56, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Bungled up on the saber pageEdit

Hi sorry to bother you but I kinda bungled up on the saber page while editing the Image for Saber Lily, the very first image, Please help to undo everthing and put it back to the way it was before I Edited it.Samever (talk) 12:42, December 13, 2014 (UTC) 

Trivia and Notes SectionsEdit

Hey, thanks for helping fix my mess on the Saber Page. But now, I need to discuss some thing else. Now I know that some wiki contributers in the past have been asking for Trivia and Notes sections on the Wiki. And of course these Ideas have been turned down, but Just to ask your personal opinion, do you think TYPE-MOON Wiki should have or should not have Trivia and Note sections. Samever 06:34, December 14, 2014 (UTC)  

Trivia is just a dumping ground for useless conjecture that has to be cleaned up every day. If a person cannot find a place for it elsewhere, it probably doesn't belong. EGGS (talk) 11:29, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

that's how homunculi like mordred and frank were summoned without avenger to halp Edit

"He (Darnic) altered the Greater Grail little by little to adapt it to Trifas. Making it possible to summon not only pure Heroics Spirits, but also ‘those who only have the aspect of a Heroic Spirit’ could be called an unexpected by-product of that process."

You should note that somewhere in the Greater Grail page. Sandubadear (talk) 18:52, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Them being homunculi isn't an issue for summoning them. Anything close to humanity can be a Heroic Spirit, even guns with souls and horses. That explanation is for them being able to summon Anti-Heroes in lieu of how Avenger corrupted the Grail in the main timeline. I think there's a place somewhere on the Servant article you could place it if you want. EGGS (talk) 20:25, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Humans? Edit

I noticed a lot of the articles have had the 'Human' category added, but it includes numerous Heroic Spirits and Zouken Matou. Now while they were all human at some point, do they still qualify? I don't mean in the sense of "Normal Human" with no connection to the supernatural or whatever, but I mean Heroic Spirits are now a type of Spirit Being and Zouken's some form of Vampire Worm. Hawkeye2701 (talk) 22:43, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

And to be honest it's sort of meaningless since 99% of the characters are human, if you also consider Heroic Spirits and vampires. Sandubadear (talk) 22:53, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
That was my original thought when I figured I'd just delete the category outright, but it makes some sense in the context in differentiating non-human Dead Apostles and Heroic Spirits with human-based ones. Medusa is currently a not-quite Heroic Spirit Anti-Hero monster thing, but she was originally a Divine Spirit and qualifies for both categories. The same thought process applies to those guys. EGGS (talk) 23:28, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Editing Question - RE: Unlimited Route Ending Edit

Hi! Is it possible to get a clarification on the endings on the Unlimited Blade Works (route)? There have been edits made to clear up the endings section at the bottom and they keep getting reverted. I've started a topic on the Talk Page there and hope to clear up some of the ambiguity in the way it's currently written. Thanks 00:28, December 30, 2014 (UTC)


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